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Joined 10 Nov '10 Moves 22480 He'd still have been world champion right!?
Joined 04 Sep '10 Moves 5716 oh, colle. haven't heard of him for a while...
Hereford Boathouse
Joined 08 Oct '09 Moves 29575 Yes, but he would have had to win with Black.
Joined 18 Jan '07 Moves 12442 Originally posted by plopzilla
He'd still have been world champion right!? No. He'd have died of shame before winning his first Candidates'.
Richard
under your bed
Joined 10 Nov '10 Moves 22480 No. He'd have died of shame before winning his first Candidates'.
Richard I've been looking at some different white openings (as i'm sick of 1.e4) for this season.
I narrowed it down to two: the KIA or Colle - and yes I sank to new depths of shame and went for a pure Colle.. 🙂 (not even a Zuckertort)
tbc
Joined 18 Feb '04 Moves 61941 Originally posted by nimzo5
Yes, but he would have had to win with Black. Here we go again... 🙄
Hereford Boathouse
Joined 08 Oct '09 Moves 29575
Joined 04 Sep '10 Moves 5716 robbie? say something... !
The Stacks
Joined 21 Aug '09 Moves 113572 Originally posted by plopzilla
He'd still have been world champion right!? He has played the Torre, but not the Colle except by favorable transposition (look at the position at move 7). Colle positions are nice to have, but the Colle move order is not necessarily the best way to get there, especially when there are cooperative French players to be had:
[Event "World Cup of Rapid Chess-A"] [Site "Cannes"] [Date "2001.03.21"] [Round "1"] [White "Kasparov, Garry"] [Black "Bareev, Evgeny"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C06"] [WhiteElo "2849"] [BlackElo "2709"] [PlyCount "81"] [EventDate "2001.03.21"] [EventType "tourn (rapid)"] [EventRounds "5"] [EventCountry "FRA"] [EventCategory "18"] [Source "ChessBase"] [SourceDate "2001.05.17"] 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 Nf6 5. e5 Nfd7 6. c3 Nc6 7. Bd3 Qb6 8. O-O g6 9. dxc5 Nxc5 10. Nb3 Nxd3 11. Qxd3 Bg7 12. Bf4 O-O 13. Qd2 Bd7 14. Rfe1 a5 15. Bh6 a4 16. Bxg7 Kxg7 17. Nbd4 Na5 18. Rab1 Nc4 19. Qf4 Qd8 20. h4 h6 21. Qg3 Qe7 22. Ne2 Kh7 23. Nf4 Rg8 24. Re2 Raf8 25. Rbe1 Rc8 26. Nh2 g5 27. Nh5 gxh4 28. Qh3 Rg5 29. Nf6+ Kg7 30. f4 Rg6 31. Nhg4 Rh8 32. Nh5+ Kf8 33. Ngf6 Bc6 34. Qxh4 a3 35. b3 Nb2 36. Kh2 Qc5 37. Re3 d4 38. Rg3 dxc3 39. Rxg6 fxg6 40. Nd7+ Bxd7 41. Qf6+ 1-0
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Joined 26 Aug '07 Moves 38239 classic soviet school over protection of e5, Colle would have been proud of Kaspers!
tbc
Joined 18 Feb '04 Moves 61941 Originally posted by robbie carrobie
classic soviet school over protection of e5, Colle would have been proud of Kaspers! http://www.timeforchess.com/tournament/enter.php?tid=12728
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Joined 26 Aug '07 Moves 38239 Originally posted by Paul Leggett
He has played the Torre, but not the Colle except by favorable transposition (look at the position at move 7). Colle positions are nice to have, but the Colle move order is not necessarily the best way to get there, especially when there are cooperative French players to be had:
[pgn][Event "World Cup of Rapid Chess-A"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "2001 8. Rg3 dxc3
39. Rxg6 fxg6 40. Nd7+ Bxd7 41. Qf6+ 1-0[/pgn] very instructive the way Kaspers goes about weakening the dark squares on blacks
kingside and utilising that e5 square, even when black gets an out post on the
queenside it counts for naught! I have lost so many times to the French i care not to
think of it, black always get awesome counter play on queenside, knights manage to
penetrate into all the holes.
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Joined 26 Aug '07 Moves 38239 Originally posted by tharkesh
robbie? say something... ! I bet some queens gambit players wished they could play the Colle like Colle.
American West
Joined 19 Apr '10 Moves 55013 Originally posted by plopzilla
He'd still have been world champion right!? We'd still be talking about Karpov's lengthy reign as World Champ.🙂
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Joined 26 Aug '07 Moves 38239 Originally posted by ChessPraxis
We'd still be talking about Karpov's lengthy reign as World Champ.🙂 Karpov played the Colle regularly - ooooh, controversial, Nimzo doesnt want people to know 😛
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