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  1. 27 Sep '11 19:03
    He'd still have been world champion right!?
  2. 27 Sep '11 19:18 / 1 edit
    oh, colle. haven't heard of him for a while...
  3. Standard member nimzo5
    Ronin
    27 Sep '11 19:47
    Yes, but he would have had to win with Black.
  4. 27 Sep '11 21:11
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    He'd still have been world champion right!?
    No. He'd have died of shame before winning his first Candidates'.

    Richard
  5. 27 Sep '11 21:20 / 1 edit
    No. He'd have died of shame before winning his first Candidates'.

    Richard
    I've been looking at some different white openings (as i'm sick of 1.e4) for this season.


    I narrowed it down to two: the KIA or Colle - and yes I sank to new depths of shame and went for a pure Colle.. 🙂 (not even a Zuckertort)
  6. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    27 Sep '11 22:22
    Originally posted by nimzo5
    Yes, but he would have had to win with Black.
    Here we go again... 🙄
  7. Standard member nimzo5
    Ronin
    27 Sep '11 22:27
    tee hee.
  8. 27 Sep '11 22:44
    robbie? say something... !
  9. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    28 Sep '11 01:37
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    He'd still have been world champion right!?
    He has played the Torre, but not the Colle except by favorable transposition (look at the position at move 7). Colle positions are nice to have, but the Colle move order is not necessarily the best way to get there, especially when there are cooperative French players to be had:

  10. 28 Sep '11 01:41
    classic soviet school over protection of e5, Colle would have been proud of Kaspers!
  11. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    28 Sep '11 01:55
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    classic soviet school over protection of e5, Colle would have been proud of Kaspers!
    http://www.timeforchess.com/tournament/enter.php?tid=12728
  12. 28 Sep '11 02:05 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    He has played the Torre, but not the Colle except by favorable transposition (look at the position at move 7). Colle positions are nice to have, but the Colle move order is not necessarily the best way to get there, especially when there are cooperative French players to be had:

    [pgn][Event "World Cup of Rapid Chess-A"]
    [Site "Cannes"]
    [Date "2001 8. Rg3 dxc3
    39. Rxg6 fxg6 40. Nd7+ Bxd7 41. Qf6+ 1-0[/pgn]
    very instructive the way Kaspers goes about weakening the dark squares on blacks
    kingside and utilising that e5 square, even when black gets an out post on the
    queenside it counts for naught! I have lost so many times to the French i care not to
    think of it, black always get awesome counter play on queenside, knights manage to
    penetrate into all the holes.
  13. 28 Sep '11 02:09
    Originally posted by tharkesh
    robbie? say something... !
    I bet some queens gambit players wished they could play the Colle like Colle.
  14. Standard member ChessPraxis
    Cowboy From Hell
    28 Sep '11 04:02
    Originally posted by plopzilla
    He'd still have been world champion right!?
    We'd still be talking about Karpov's lengthy reign as World Champ.🙂
  15. 28 Sep '11 10:13 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    We'd still be talking about Karpov's lengthy reign as World Champ.🙂
    Karpov played the Colle regularly - ooooh, controversial, Nimzo doesnt want people to know 😛