Ok, I'm at a loss, and now I'm asking a plea for help. My rating, as of right now, on Yahoo chess is 1460. It's unbeleivable that I cannot beat these guys, I just don't get it. I've always had trouble against these guys since god knows when. I don't know how they do it, their plans seem to defy all positional chess logic, yet I am simply beat. I often find myself defending all the time, tactic after tactic, until I let up. I guess they are just better players then me, but I just don't see how, and I don't know what to do to improve my game. 2 hours of study minimum a day, chess book after chess book, game after game, and the newbies on this site still domolish me. HELP! HELP! HELP!
My first Yahoo loss (and it's bound to happen soon), I am posting the results asking you guys to annotate for help. I really don't know what to do, computer analysis seems to be of little help against these guys as they play so irregular and strange, in fact, I bet only a human can understand the way they move and why they do it. Often times, when a Yahoo player plays, I think his move is a garbage move and I can't figure out why he did it until something bad happens, and I'm like, "ohhhhhh!"
Ok, here it is, a typical weird Yahooian opening that f***ked me up! It's so weird how Yahoo works, I prevent my opponent from castling, yet still, I cannot find a way to develop my queenside and eventually I blunder my queen. I did see that rook move, I knew it was coming, but I couldn't find a way to develop my f***king peices on the queenside, and I thought in desperation I had to get my bishop out ASAP. So, where was the blunder, except losing my queen, but I would of lost a peice anyways, in this game? I lost in 19 moves to someone who obviously never saw a Sicilian in his lifetime:
1. e2-e4 c7-c5
2. g1-f3 e7-e6
3. f1-b5 g8-f6
4. e4-e5 f6-d5
5. c2-c4 d5-b4
6. a2-a3 b4-d3+
7. e1-e2 d3xc1+
8. d1xc1 a7-a6
9. b5-a4 f8-e7
10. h1-e1 o-o
11. e2-f1 d7-d6
12. d2-d4 c5xd4
13. f3xd4 d6xe5
14. d4-f3 c8-d7
15. e1-d1 b8-c6
16. a4xc6 b7xc6
17. f3xe5 a8-a7
18. e5xc6 a7-c7
19. c6xd8
I'll throw in two cents here: On Yahoo, they're playing speed chess. It's an entirely different strategy then normal. Positional players lose in speed. You have to play tactically and go for a "first strike" initiative. I would guess that you are looking at long term planning with a solid position and developing possible tactic combinations later on. Your opponents don't care about their positions and are going for tactics only. Thus, you find yourself defending against players that have a weak position, but a concentrated tactical attack.
If you want to really improve your game, I would suggest only playing one style of chess or learn to consider them two completely different games (as they are). I would also suggest hiring a coach. You could probably find someone rated in the 1900-2100 range for $20-30 an hour. An hour or two per week and they can provide a great deal of insight into your games that it could take you months to figure out on your own.
But hey, there's no GM in front of my name either-so take it for what it's worth. Best of Luck.
Originally posted by mateuloseMove 3 you should have immediately played a6 forcing the retreat of the Bishop. If he was stupid enough to go to a4, you win a piece in the first 5 moves!
Ok, here it is, a typical weird Yahooian opening that f***ked me up! It's so weird how Yahoo works, I prevent my opponent from castling, yet still, I cannot find a way to develop my queenside and eventually I blunder my queen. I did see ...[text shortened]... 6
16. a4xc6 b7xc6
17. f3xe5 a8-a7
18. e5xc6 a7-c7
19. c6xd8
EDIT: I'm sorry; I misread the later moves. Will repost in a few minutes with a corrected analysis. I have deleted my mistaken analysis here.
Originally posted by mateuloseI'm sorry for the mix up. 3 ..... a6 as I said, should have been played immediately. After that, I see no major mistakes and a tolerable position, even one somewhat in your favor, until move 15. You should have immediately unpinned the bishop by playing 15 ..... Qc7; it's a pretty good policy to break pins ASAP. After that mistake the moves are forced until move 18 when you should have bit the bullet and played d7xc6. This would have left you with 2 rooks and the bishop pair against a Queen, Rook and Knight which were undeveloped. You would have been only down slightly in material with positional compensation.
Ok, here it is, a typical weird Yahooian opening that f***ked me up! It's so weird how Yahoo works, I prevent my opponent from castling, yet still, I cannot find a way to develop my queenside and eventually I blunder my queen. I did see that rook move, I knew it was coming, but I couldn't find a way to develop my f***king peices on the queenside, and I t ...[text shortened]... 4. d4-f3 c8-d7
15. e1-d1 b8-c6
16. a4xc6 b7xc6
17. f3xe5 a8-a7
18. e5xc6 a7-c7
19. c6xd8
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no1marauder is right. If you had any experience with this opening you would have learned to kick the bishop of anyone foolish to put the bishop on b5. Can't you see (even in blitz) if you kick it it has to go back to e2 or he loses it? Even after that you have an even game up to the point where you allow your opponent to maintain a pin on the bishop instead of simply moving the queen to d7 (where it should be in this variation). then you try to save the bishop by losing your queen. I realize that analyzing blitz is a waste of time, but a couple of lessons to be learned: 1. ALWAYS kick that biship in analgous positions. Many times a blitz opponent will retreat tothe a file and lose it. 2. NEVER allow opponent to maintain a pin. You can't play on general principles when your opponent is tactically kicking your ***. You have to see a move ahead (even in blitz). Iwouldn't dwell on the loss. I've played hundreds in which i've made stupid mistakes. Just make a mental note of your missteps and don't do it again. Gradually you'll get better. DO NOT quit the opening because you lost the game. You screwed it up on move 3 (face it), so you play a6 next time (and it'll happen again) and you'll make a mistake further on. Gradually, you'll see your opponents make a mistake first and you pounce on it. Actually, that Bb5 was a bad mistake for white. If you had pounced on it, you would have had the better game. Another thing, in that variation (Kan, Taimanov?) beware of automatically plunking that knight on f6 in opening, allowing him to kick it with pawn. that's why the queen is put on c7 early on.
Well, I know the regular lines is 3.a6 on move 3, but let's be honest, it's not like my opponent had any opening theory. The reason I don't play a6, is I think the book mmove isn't that great, because after a6, he simply takes the knight with his bad bishop. By not playing a6, you leave a trap, if he then takes the knight, you play Ba6!, and he can't castle. But seeing that in this game I stoped him from castling anyways, I guess I should of played a6, mind you I didn't like the look of all my pawns being on white squares, stupid square theory book, this is blitz! (*slaps face*)
Originally posted by mateuloseUhm,mate,you played 1....,c5 2....,e6,there was no knight on c6 at move 3,a6 was probably best indeed.White's 3.Bb5 was a wasted move,if there's no knight the bishop hits nothing but air,and the move looks rather silly,IMO.
Well, I know the regular lines is 3.a6 on move 3, but let's be honest, it's not like my opponent had any opening theory. The reason I don't play a6, is I think the book mmove isn't that great, because after a6, he simply takes the knight with his bad bishop. By not playing a6, you leave a trap, if he then takes the knight, you play Ba6!, and he can't ...[text shortened]... of all my pawns being on white squares, stupid square theory book, this is blitz! (*slaps face*)
You're right, he's not playing an opening. He's just moving. As soon as he moved that B to b5 you should have played a6 because that was a boo-boo and you have to react to mistakes in blitz. That's how you win in blitz. Not by strategy. You try not to make mistakes and constantly search for his mistakes. Or you could just have played Nc6 and gone into the main lines. he made one mistake, you made two, ergo he wins. Don't worry about it. It happens to me all the time.
Originally posted by mateuloseI'm going to have to quit reading these forums, because it seems that every other thread is you whining about how you lost a game because of your opponent's stupidity.
Ok, here it is, a typical weird Yahooian opening that f***ked me up! It's so weird how Yahoo works, I prevent my opponent from castling, yet still, I cannot find a way to develop my queenside and eventually I blunder my queen. I did see that rook move, I knew it was coming, but I couldn't find a way to develop my f***king peices on the queenside, and I t ...[text shortened]... 4. d4-f3 c8-d7
15. e1-d1 b8-c6
16. a4xc6 b7xc6
17. f3xe5 a8-a7
18. e5xc6 a7-c7
19. c6xd8
Here are some points for you to consider.
1. If your opponent beat you, he achieved the objective of the game, and you didn't. By the definition of chess, he outplayed you.
2. Maybe your opponent doesn't know beans about the opening you wanted him to play, but he sure knew how to beat you, and that's all that matters.
3. In the game that you provide, your opponent pushed you all over the place. You created a cramped position for yourself. Your opponent is not responsible for your bad moves. You are.
4. You have no idea what chess is about. You claim that you achieved something important when you prevented your opponent from castling, but he got to a fine castled position anyway, while making powerful developing moves.
5. You got yourself in trouble with a pin, and apparently felt that losing your queen for a minor piece was better than losing it for a minor piece PLUS a rook.
6. You do not lose games because of your opponent's bad moves, you lose games because your moves are worse.
7. A person's attitude toward chess results can often illustrate attitude about life in general. You apparently believe that life (and chess) should hand you success on a silver platter. Chess is generally a good exercise because I think it teaches thinking, patience, responsibility, sportsmanship, and acceptance. However, there are always exceptions, and in your case chess has taught you none of these things, because I don't think you can be taught these things.
Originally posted by dpressnellUgh, you've got to be kidding if you thought that guy was beating me in the opening, smash me all you want for the queen blunder it a blitz game, but to say that guy had a superior opening to me and position shows your lack of objectiveness. Admit it, look up and read the posts, most guys admit I had a better opening even despite overlooking a6 on move 3, which would of made things even better probably. They said very few mistakes were made until the last few moves.
I'm going to have to quit reading these forums, because it seems that every other thread is you whining about how you lost a game because of your opponent's stupidity.
Here are some points for you to consider.
1. If your opponen ...[text shortened]... things, because I don't think you can be taught these things.
As for you saying he "castled in a natural way", well, that "natural way", if I remember this game, meant a severe lack of development, spending several moves to move the king.
But if you really thought I got blown away by a superior GM styled player who is a genius, then you are entitled to think what you want, althought something tells me you couldn't wait to throw in a few shots over one of my lost games.