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  1. 05 Aug '14 03:53 / 1 edit
    Veselin Topalov - Francisco Vallejo-Pons Chess Olympiad (2014)


    The whole concept is just brillo mungo, but for some reason I just love White's
    25th move - it all becomes clear on White's 30th move.

  2. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    05 Aug '14 03:58
    Wow!
  3. 05 Aug '14 10:19
    Not bad, but a better player (such as myself) would have played 10.Bg3 rather than 10.Bh2 as it was pretty obvious that Black would be threatening a back rank mate twenty moves later.
  4. 05 Aug '14 15:46
    Originally posted by Data Fly
    Not bad, but a better player (such as myself) would have played 10.Bg3 rather than 10.Bh2 as it was pretty obvious that Black would be threatening a back rank mate twenty moves later.
    Exactly! Why not Bg3? It would cost black two moves to get his h pawn in position that would require Bh2. This would mean two moves for black to force one move for white! An easy way to tempt black into giving up tempo and over extending his pawns.
  5. Standard member byedidia
    Mister Why
    05 Aug '14 21:19
    I think he accidentally touched his bishop on move 25 and said "Oh well, I'll just put it here." Then was happy about it 5 moves later.
  6. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    05 Aug '14 23:17
    In my view, White's strategic foresight and tactical timing is nothing short of exquisite. Thanks, greenpawn34.
  7. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    05 Aug '14 23:20
    Originally posted by Data Fly
    Not bad, but a better player (such as myself) would have played 10.Bg3 rather than 10.Bh2 as it was pretty obvious that Black would be threatening a back rank mate twenty moves later.
    Yet you've never made a chess game move since joining on 17 Feb '10.... What am I missing?
  8. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    05 Aug '14 23:35 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Yet you've never made a chess game move since joining on 17 Feb '10.... What am I missing?
    That way, he can continue to make people think he is a GM. Typical windbag, all talk, no action. Back seat driver. But what about 18 Qxf5? Isn't a case now he was forced to take the rook or lose the knight? Did he do that deliberately? Or was it an oversight and he had to come up with something fast?
  9. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    06 Aug '14 00:01
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    That way, he can continue to make people think he is a GM. Typical windbag, all talk, no action. Back seat driver. But what about 18 Qxf5? Isn't a case now he was forced to take the rook or lose the knight? Did he do that deliberately? Or was it an oversight and he had to come up with something fast?
    "But what about 18 Qxf5?" -sonhouse Though we'll probably never know, I'm inclined to conclude he planned the move.
  10. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    06 Aug '14 00:03
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "But what about 18 Qxf5?" -sonhouse Though we'll probably never know, I'm inclined to conclude he planned the move.
    I'm thinking he blundered into a win
  11. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    06 Aug '14 02:17 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Yet you've never made a chess game move since joining on 17 Feb '10.... What am I missing?
    GB, he was just being funny. It made me laugh because I have thought like that before, and I could see myself doing it in that position. When I laughed, I laughed at myself as much as anything.

    While the chess gods conceive of grand conceptions, we lesser lights dwell upon such banal threats as back-rank mates, because they are simple demons we understand.

    Occasionally, as though looking through a glass, darkly, we play the right move for the most simplistic and pedestrian reasons.

    Edit: Sorry, my brother in law is in town, which means the quality of the brew consumed increases dramatically!
  12. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    06 Aug '14 02:23
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Exactly! Why not Bg3? It would cost black two moves to get his h pawn in position that would require Bh2. This would mean two moves for black to force one move for white! An easy way to tempt black into giving up tempo and over extending his pawns.
    ...Nh5 only takes one move
  13. Standard member Grampy Bobby
    Boston Lad
    06 Aug '14 03:27 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Paul Leggett
    GB, he was just being funny. It made me laugh because I have thought like that before, and I could see myself doing it in that position. When I laughed, I laughed at myself as much as anything.

    While the chess gods conceive of grand conceptions, we lesser lights dwell upon such banal threats as back-rank mates, because they are simple demons we und ...[text shortened]... brother in law is in town, which means the quality of the brew consumed increases dramatically!
    "Sorry, my brother in law is in town, which means the quality of the brew consumed increases dramatically!" ~Paul Leggett

    "... the quality of the brew consumed" or the quantity [or both] "increases dramatically!"?

    |~~|@
    |__.|.... < Paul's glass...... |_|@.... < Paul's brother in law's glass

    Ha,
  14. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    06 Aug '14 03:49
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    "Sorry, my brother in law is in town, which means the quality of the brew consumed increases dramatically!" ~Paul Leggett

    "... the quality of the brew consumed" or the quantity [or both] "increases dramatically!"?

    |~~|@
    |__.|.... < Paul's glass...... |_|@.... < Paul's brother in law's glass

    Ha,
    I plead the fifth. Or plead for the fifth. Or something like that.
  15. 06 Aug '14 11:39
    On g3 the Bishop as stated is open to a well timed Nh5
    threatening Nxg3 and opening up the sniper on g7.


    The the other reason is flexability.
    White does not want to shelf the possibilty of playing g4.