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  1. 17 Aug '06 04:12 / 1 edit
    Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

    I say its a draw.

    EdIT: my mistake. reverse position, black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.
  2. 17 Aug '06 04:14
    Originally posted by Superman
    Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

    I say its a draw.
    yes it is a draw all you have to do is stay in front of the pawn.
  3. 17 Aug '06 04:19 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Superman
    Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

    I say its a draw.
    I don't see how it is a draw as you describe it.
  4. 17 Aug '06 04:24
    Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
    I don't see how it is a draw as you describe it.
    I cant see how its not a draw. do you know a way to win as black?
  5. 17 Aug '06 04:29
    Originally posted by Superman
    I cant see how its not a draw. do you know a way to win as black?
    Well, the Black pawn is on e3, is moving down the board, and his king is in front of it, right? On e2?
    So how can White stop the pawn from queening?
  6. Standard member TEXASmade
    President of Texas
    17 Aug '06 04:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Superman
    Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

    I say its a draw.
    the game is a win for black
  7. 17 Aug '06 04:35
    Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
    Well, the Black pawn is on e3, is moving down the board, and his king is in front of it, right? On e2?
    So how can White stop the pawn from queening?
    ok, I see, my mistake::

    its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

    White to move.
  8. Standard member TEXASmade
    President of Texas
    17 Aug '06 04:36 / 1 edit
    1. Kf4(or Kd4) Kd2(or Kf2)
    2. Kf3(or Kd3) then black just pushes the pawn

    ohh, nevermind, you had the wrong position, that one IS drawn
  9. Standard member TEXASmade
    President of Texas
    17 Aug '06 04:39 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Superman
    ok, I see, my mistake::

    its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

    White to move.
    yes, its drawn

    1. Ke4 Kd6
    2. Kd4(taking the opposition, if black moves his king to f6 then you oppose there) e5+
    2. Ke4 Ke6...
    then just repeat this pattern over and over until the white king is on e1...
  10. 17 Aug '06 04:41
    Originally posted by Superman
    ok, I see, my mistake::

    its reverse, that would be the black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.

    White to move.
    Yes, a dead draw.
    Look up the meaning of 'opposition'.
  11. 17 Aug '06 04:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by TEXASmade
    1. Kf4(or Kd4) Kd2(or Kf2)
    2. Kf3(or Kd3) then black just pushes the pawn
    What if white moves 1. Ke4
    then after 1. ...... Kf6
    2. Kf4

    or 1...... Kd6
    2. Kd4

    OK is a draw.

    do you have another position of K Vs K&P where it could be dificult to know?
  12. 17 Aug '06 04:43
    Originally posted by Superman
    What if white moves 1. Ke4
    then after 1. ...... Kf6
    2. Kf4

    or 1...... Kd6
    2. Kd4
    See my last post.
  13. Standard member TEXASmade
    President of Texas
    17 Aug '06 04:43
    Originally posted by Superman
    What if white moves 1. Ke4
    then after 1. ...... Kf6
    2. Kf4

    or 1...... Kd6
    2. Kd4
    i was talking about the first position you gave, the one you said was incorrect..
  14. Standard member TEXASmade
    President of Texas
    17 Aug '06 04:45
    Originally posted by ThudanBlunder
    Yes, a dead draw.
    Look up the meaning of 'opposition'.
    lol, yep, i described it using opposition as well. my new tutor taught me the meaning and it made many endgames soo much clearer. it's good to know
  15. Standard member buffalobill
    Major Bone
    17 Aug '06 06:05
    Originally posted by Superman
    Sorry that I have no idea on how to make a FEN, but is a very simple position, black king on e2, black pawn on e3, and white king on e4, white to move.

    I say its a draw.

    EdIT: my mistake. reverse position, black king on e7, black pawn on e6, and white king on e5.
    Start a new game, go to advanced options and set up the board. Copy the FEN and paste into a new message with the insert board from FEN option. Don't forget to cancel the game you started, otherwise you leave an open challenge. Simple, really.