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  1. 12 Feb '11 12:15 / 1 edit
    A couple of fun games I had with Paul Leggett. They show that the game can easily go either way while the queens are on the board. Each is resigned when checkmate is inevitable in a few moves...

    Game 7913916
    Game 7913917
  2. 13 Feb '11 03:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by iamatiger
    A couple of fun games I had with Paul Leggett. They show that the game can easily go either way while the queens are on the board. Each is resigned when checkmate is inevitable in a few moves...

    Game 7913916
    Game 7913917
    also called:

    the dangers of f4 for queens...


    buh!

  3. Donation ketchuplover
    G.O.A.T.
    13 Feb '11 10:45 / 1 edit
    In the second game 25.Qxe4 seems not too bad.
  4. Donation Anthem
    The Ferocious Camel
    13 Feb '11 17:18
    Originally posted by ketchuplover
    In the second game 25.Qxe4 seems not too bad.
    after BxQ gxf+ Ke7 (or Kf8) it seems to me that the queen's gone for very little.
  5. 14 Feb '11 08:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Anthem
    after BxQ gxf+ Ke7 (or Kf8) it seems to me that the queen's gone for very little.
    Yes looks like I'm better after that and can build a reasonable attack on his c2 pawn. I was more worried during the game about him building pressure in the centre with, e.g. 31 Qe3.
  6. 14 Feb '11 12:38
    for the second game, i thought, that instead of 34. f5 this would be nicer:

    34. P=Q Rxf8 35. Qxe6+ Kd8 36. Qxd6+ should be winning.



    and in the second game, 30. f4 seems to open the defense, and maybe 30. Qc3 would have been better.

    just found it rather curious, that both times the f4 square was so vital to white...not matter whether the pawn leaves it or reaches it!


    this must be one of the hidden golden rules of chess. seems like the only way for white to win is not move the f4 pawn or capture something on g4 or e4!
  7. Subscriber Paul Leggett
    Chess Librarian
    15 Feb '11 01:11 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by iamatiger
    A couple of fun games I had with Paul Leggett. They show that the game can easily go either way while the queens are on the board. Each is resigned when checkmate is inevitable in a few moves...

    Game 7913916
    Game 7913917
    These games are partly why I wrote my "Why I play" thread. The fact that we split the games just adds to the poetic symmetry, I think!
  8. 15 Feb '11 08:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by tharkesh
    for the second game, i thought, that instead of 34. f5 this would be nicer:

    34. P=Q Rxf8 35. Qxe6+ Kd8 36. Qxd6+ should be winning.

    [fen]3k1rB1/1b6/1p1Q4/p7/5P2/8/1PqB3P/3RnK2 b - - 0 36[/fen]

    and in the first game, 30. f4 seems to open the defense, and maybe 30. Qc3 would have been better.

    just found it rather curious, that both times th ...[text shortened]... ems like the only way for white to win is not move the f4 pawn or capture something on g4 or e4!
    Nice coments tharkesh, I certainly did regret that f4 advance in game 1. At the time I thought my king could probably escape up the h file to safety, but it escaped to checkmate instead.