King's Indian against the French defence

I've been having real problems against the FD, normally playing the advance variation which just seems strongest & most natural to me.

I've heard about playing the KIA against it:
1.e4...e6
2.d3...d5
then maybe
3.Nd2 stopping a possible queen exchange after clearing the d-file with dxe4, dxe4

Anyone had any success with this?

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I've been having real problems against the FD, normally playing the advance variation which just seems strongest & most natural to me.

I've heard about playing the KIA against it:
1.e4...e6
2.d3...d5
then maybe
3.Nd2 stopping a possible queen exchange after clearing the d-file with dxe4, dxe4

Anyone had any success with this?

[fen]rnbqkbnr/ppp2ppp/4p3/3p4/4P3/3P4/PPPN1PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - 0 3[/fen]

Playable and easy to learn. But objective stronger is 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3

can't remember exactly, but i think it's the reveresed philidor, not sure, don't have much experience with the french. At a glance.. it blocks in both bishops though!

Whats wrong with 1. e4, e6 0-1?

Saves a lot of boredom.

Originally posted by onyx2006
can't remember exactly, but i think it's the reveresed philidor, not sure, don't have much experience with the french. At a glance.. it blocks in both bishops though!

No it's the King's Indian Attack, 2. d3 3. Nd2 (or else dxe4 dxe4 Qxd1+) then g3, Bg2, Ngf3 etc. White usually ends up pushing his e pawn to e5 and attacking on the kingside while black pushes the qside

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I've been having real problems against the FD, normally playing the advance variation which just seems strongest & most natural to me.

I've heard about playing the KIA against it:
1.e4...e6
2.d3...d5
then maybe
3.Nd2 stopping a possible queen exchange after clearing the d-file with dxe4, dxe4

Anyone had any success with this?

[fen]rnbqkbnr/ppp2ppp/4p3/3p4/4P3/3P4/PPPN1PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - 0 3[/fen]

I'm not into the KIA, but Fischer had used it on occasion against the french. This is a fine example.
Fischer vs Myagmarsuren
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044267

1. e4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. g3 c5 5. Bg2 Nc6 6. Ngf3 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8. e5 Nd7 9. Re1 b5 10. Nf1 b4 11. h4 a5 12. Bf4 a4 13. a3 bxa3 14. bxa3 Na5 15. Ne3 Ba6 16. Bh3 d4 17. Nf1 Nb6 18. Ng5 Nd5 19. Bd2 Bxg5 20. Bxg5 Qd7 21. Qh5 Rfc8 22. Nd2 Nc3 23. Bf6 Qe8 24. Ne4 g6 25. Qg5 Nxe4 26. Rxe4 c4 27. h5 cxd3 28. Rh4 Ra7 29. Bg2 dxc2 30. Qh6 Qf8 31. Qxh7+ 1-0

Originally posted by Korch
Playable and easy to learn. But objective stronger is 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3

i know Nc3 is best...
better by far than the Advance which I hated with a passion as white...
what is best after 3. ... Bb4?

I played this fun game against kwgoodwin Game 2671958

I missed 24...Nxe5 other wise I would have had him.....then I played like crap and lost quickly.

Originally posted by ih8sens
Whats wrong with 1. e4, e6 0-1?

Saves a lot of boredom.

I understand ya buddy😉

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I understand ya buddy😉

I dont 😕

how 'bout just forfeit before the game even starts?

In the November 2004 issue of Chess Life, GM Susan Polgar's column discussed this variation. The article was 1 1/2 pages of analysis on two games: Fischer-Miagmasuren (Sousse Interzonal, 1967) and Fischer-Geller (Netanya, 1968), both wins for white. Although the games are not recent, the line is not overly theoretical, so you may find the ideas presented in the article useful (if you can acquire a copy of the magazine).

In GM John Emms' book "Attacking with 1.e4", he devotes a chapter (about 40 pages) to using the KIA vs. the French Defense.