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  1. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    30 Sep '12 15:38
    I remember reading a story about Alekhine getting caught in a scam - he was giving a simul against two players, and they pulled the scam of giving him different colors and waiting until he moved and copying his moves, forcing them to play himself, in effect.

    But then Alekhine escapes by steering the game into a position where they both think they can win, they take the bait, and A. destroys them.

    I thought it was in one of my old Reinfeld books, but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone have a book/reference with this story?
  2. 30 Sep '12 16:14
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    I remember reading a story about Alekhine getting caught in a scam - he was giving a simul against two players, and they pulled the scam of giving him different colors and waiting until he moved and copying his moves, forcing them to play himself, in effect.

    But then Alekhine escapes by steering the game into a position where they both think they can ...[text shortened]... Reinfeld books, but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone have a book/reference with this story?
    Weinstein, "Combinaties en Valstrikken in de Opening" (which means "Combinations and Traps in the Opening"; it's a Dutch translation from the Russian, but the original title is not given).

    Weinstein claims that he and a friend pulled this trick on Dus-Chotimirsky, and failed not so much because D-C got wise, but because Weinstein jumped the gun and his friend misunderstood the way in which Weinstein got beaten.

    In that book, the games were:




    Don't know if those ring a bell, but that's the only story I've read. Although I'm sure something similar has happened more than once.

    Richard
  3. 30 Sep '12 22:51
    Hi SG

    Wiki & Database claim the players were Alekhine and Bogoljubov and it
    was a correspondence game.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess

    I read of the same incident but it involved Lasker and Capablanca.

    The Alekhine simul does ring a bell though.
  4. 01 Oct '12 13:07
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Wiki & Database claim the players were Alekhine and Bogoljubov and it was a correspondence game.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess

    I read of the same incident but it involved Lasker and Capablanca.

    The Alekhine simul does ring a bell though.
    I note that there is no citation for that incident on the page. Unsubstantiated gossip on chess run wild, on the internet even more than in print - ask Edward Winter. I'd rather trust someone who says he was involved in it and remembers the name of Dus-Chotimirsky than a Pikiwedia page which just drops four of the greatest names in chess without a [ citation please ].

    (Meanwhile, as above, I don't doubt either that this has happened more than once, so both or all three versions may in fact be true.)

    Richard
  5. 01 Oct '12 13:40
    Hi SB.

    So would I. WHat you could do is add tat information to the Wiki page
    as it 100% proof that it has been tried.

    I mention the links because they both say Alekhine which SG was after.

    It does read like Database followed Wiki.

    My mention of Capa comes from him saying one of the hardest games
    he ever had was by post but it turned out he was playing Lasker.
    I'll dig out the source when I have more time.

    Most likely a myth. Winter chases them down and often finds the source.
    But he is on a lost cause.
    Chess myths are added nearly every week.
    You could fill a book and a sequel with the myths surrounding Fischer.