More on the Irish Chess Cheat Issue

Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, maybe if he had fathered children, then the decision would have been different.

The Instructor

hard to respect that statement.

Originally posted by Ponderable
In fact banning him from Facebook for life would be the more sever punishment.

Agreed, but given that my friend's dog has a Facebook account, I'm not sure how that could be enforced.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
hard to respect that statement.

Hard to respect your statement that he can get married and father children, too.

The Instructor

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
hard to respect that statement.

What about your religious idea of forgiveness? Granted, the kid cheated but you do know a 16 yo does not have a biologically completed brain yet don't you? Would you be so vindictive as to not let him play a tourny 20 years later? He was SUCH a reprobate at the age of 16 there is no possibility of regret, growth in his mind and body and therefore should get a lifetime ban, even if he is GM potential?

Originally posted by sonhouse
even if he is GM potential?

In this instance, he isn't.

Originally posted by sonhouse
What about your religious idea of forgiveness? Granted, the kid cheated but you do know a 16 yo does not have a biologically completed brain yet don't you? Would you be so vindictive as to not let him play a tourny 20 years later? He was SUCH a reprobate at the age of 16 there is no possibility of regret, growth in his mind and body and therefore should get a lifetime ban, even if he is GM potential?

my religious convictions are what? irrelevant! secondly, forgiveness and being shielded from the consequences of ones own actions are what? not synonymous! thirdly i resent your term of vindictiveness, he deliberately cheated and should be punished, no one here, least of all me, has called for a lifetime ban, making the rest of your post what? a pure straw man argument! now please, this is chess only, people come here to read chess games, why dont you post one.

Noting that atheletes on a first offence cant be banned for more than a couple of years the sentence in a hobby for a juvenile who is now an international laughing stock seems reasonable.

On a criminal side though if he was in with a chance of winning and there was prize money then in e&w an offence was committed! No idea about Ireland.

Originally posted by Habeascorp
Noting that atheletes on a first offence cant be banned for more than a couple of years the sentence in a hobby for a juvenile who is now an international laughing stock seems reasonable.

On a criminal side though if he was in with a chance of winning and there was prize money then in e&w an offence was committed! No idea about Ireland.

with the prevalence of cheating in chess on-line and now OTB it seems hard to understand the leniency.