Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat about your religious idea of forgiveness? Granted, the kid cheated but you do know a 16 yo does not have a biologically completed brain yet don't you? Would you be so vindictive as to not let him play a tourny 20 years later? He was SUCH a reprobate at the age of 16 there is no possibility of regret, growth in his mind and body and therefore should get a lifetime ban, even if he is GM potential?
hard to respect that statement.
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Originally posted by sonhousemy religious convictions are what? irrelevant! secondly, forgiveness and being shielded from the consequences of ones own actions are what? not synonymous! thirdly i resent your term of vindictiveness, he deliberately cheated and should be punished, no one here, least of all me, has called for a lifetime ban, making the rest of your post what? a pure straw man argument! now please, this is chess only, people come here to read chess games, why dont you post one.
What about your religious idea of forgiveness? Granted, the kid cheated but you do know a 16 yo does not have a biologically completed brain yet don't you? Would you be so vindictive as to not let him play a tourny 20 years later? He was SUCH a reprobate at the age of 16 there is no possibility of regret, growth in his mind and body and therefore should get a lifetime ban, even if he is GM potential?
Noting that atheletes on a first offence cant be banned for more than a couple of years the sentence in a hobby for a juvenile who is now an international laughing stock seems reasonable.
On a criminal side though if he was in with a chance of winning and there was prize money then in e&w an offence was committed! No idea about Ireland.
Originally posted by Habeascorpwith the prevalence of cheating in chess on-line and now OTB it seems hard to understand the leniency.
Noting that atheletes on a first offence cant be banned for more than a couple of years the sentence in a hobby for a juvenile who is now an international laughing stock seems reasonable.
On a criminal side though if he was in with a chance of winning and there was prize money then in e&w an offence was committed! No idea about Ireland.