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  1. Standard member nawadaP
    The Grouch!
    08 Feb '10 22:40
    Hi All,

    I was hoping that some of you might help me out with some analysis, please? This is the first competitive OTB game that I have played at my club. I'm not posting the game becasue I won. I honestly found myself stressing as I couldn't seem to work out a plan to get my rooks to the G\H files to help my queen out, at around move 18.

    I was concerned that he would swap rooks on the E file and hold that position. Also, I didn't want to take the pawn on f3 that was on offer, as his Queen was in a bad position, so I settled on swapping pieces and gaining material..... 9. Qa4 Nxc4 20. Qxc4 Qxf3+ - On my notes at this stage I was looking at moving my King to h8 and trying to push my f pawn out to get my rook involved. Is this sound thinking?

    In my conclusion, I think he blundered with 12. h4.
    I'm sure 18. Na5 was not the best move for me, but I couldn't see an alternative.

    All help is appreciated.


  2. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    08 Feb '10 22:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by nawadaP
    Hi All,

    I was hoping that some of you might help me out with some analysis, please? This is the first competitive OTB game that I have played at my club. I'm not posting the game becasue I won. I honestly found myself stressing as I couldn't seem to work out a plan to get my rooks to the G\H files to help my queen out, at around move 18.

    I was concern Rcd3 37. Kh6 Rxd4 38. Rc1 c5 39. Rb1 Kf7 40. Ra1 Kf6 41. Rxa7 Rh4 0-1 [/pgn]
    12.h4? is indeed poor, as your reply showed. Better to play 12.Qc2, avoiding the pin and connecting Rooks.

    I thought white had a good position out of the opening before that move. He has more central space to work with.

    I prefer 18...Qxf3+ to your 18...Na5. The idea is not just to take a pawn, but follow it with a Rook lift like Ra8-e8-e4. Let him have the b7 pawn, if it makes him feel better. Also, he can't oppose this with Re1 because you trade Rooks, then eat the f2 pawn.
  3. Standard member nawadaP
    The Grouch!
    08 Feb '10 23:06
    Thanks SwissGambit, I see what you mean re: the f3 pawn, I simply didn't see that I would end up with the f2 pawn after a rook exchange, during the game 🙂
  4. 08 Feb '10 23:27 / 1 edit
    edit: nevermind, silly mistake
  5. 08 Feb '10 23:34
    What about 21... Rad8, and the rook gets to either h6 or h5 and then h1
  6. 08 Feb '10 23:38
    21...Rae8 seems like it might be better than 21...Qf4+
    23...Re6 looks like a good move maybe too.
  7. 09 Feb '10 05:52
    Hi

    White's 9.Bd2 in this position was miserable. (Tell him I said so).



    White has just defended a pawn the lads were soundly saccing 400 ago!!

    What we have here is a Giuoco Piano Moller Attack except Black has no d-pawn.
    So the c4 Bishop is not going to get bugged with d5.
    And with the Knight on d5 instead off e4 the e-file is open for business.

    9.0-0!

    Black cannot take twice on c3 to win the pawn as either way he gets hammered.

    Don't believe me, believe Greco who knew this in 1620!

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=72111

    (look st his Giuoco Piano's).

    Pity the White player did not know this in 2010
    You must know the classics. They give you ideas.

    So after 9.00! White has King safety plus a tempo as Black has a piece hanging.

    In 1.e4 e5 openings that have opened right up this tempo is critcal.

    White is ahead and Black needs to find some only moves to stay on the board.
    Indeed against a good player it may already be too late for Black..

    9...Bxc3 10. bxc3 0-0 White is calling the play.

    Sample line.
    With a bit of liberty taken but it shows you the potential.



    Cannot comment about the rest of the rest game. I did not go past move 9.
  8. 09 Feb '10 06:25
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi

    White's 9.Bd2 in this position was miserable. (Tell him I said so).

    [fen]r1bqk2r/ppp2ppp/2n5/3n4/1bBP4/2N2N2/PP3PPP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - 0 9[/fen]

    White has just defended a pawn the lads were soundly saccing 400 ago!!

    What we have here is a Giuoco Piano Moller Attack except Black has no d-pawn.
    So the c4 Bishop is not going to get bugged with ...[text shortened]... 6. Nf7[/pgn]

    Cannot comment about the rest of the rest game. I did not go past move 9.
    Qxg5 GG
  9. 09 Feb '10 10:04
    Originally posted by KnightStalker47
    Qxg5 GG
    "...with a bit of liberty taken..."
  10. 09 Feb '10 11:40
    Originally posted by KnightStalker47
    Qxg5 GG
    Whoops! Too much liberty. 😳

    One should not post at 5.00am in the morning.
    (guess it proves I don't use a box when I do these things).

    I'm right about 9.0-0 though. Even at 5 o'clock in the morning.

  11. 09 Feb '10 11:42 / 1 edit
    You can't stop there - show the pretty finish:

  12. 09 Feb '10 13:06
    Hi Fat Lady.

    I left it there as I had shown the neat finish earlier.

    I nearly pulled that off recently in Game 7141673
    he played 9.Bg5 in the old Classic Lopez trap.
    It losses to 9...Nxf3+ but 9.Nxd4 losses better.



    The black player, ArashAB, lost two quickies to me but he has failrly tore
    into some of the other players in my section. Tournament 9271 Nearly matching
    me for quick wins. Damn cheek of the fellow.

    An aggresive lad, very unpolished but with a good tactical attacking eye.
    Moves far to quick and misses threats to himself.
    My two games hopefully sorted that out.
  13. 09 Feb '10 14:03
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I left it there as I had shown the neat finish earlier.
    Whoops, so you did. My apologies. I hadn't actually seen that Qg8+ with a smothered mate trick at all until quite recently. A chap at my chess club pulled it off in a 4NCL game against a pretty strong (2100+) opponent.

    I've been trying to fill the gaps in my chess knowledge over the last few years, and tricks and traps were one of the most noticeable weaknesses I had. I've always been pretty good at attacking, but until recently it was mostly me working it out for myself over the board. Now I have quite an arsenal to call upon, thanks to old books like "1001 Chess Sacrifices and Combinations" and "Winning Chess Traps".
  14. 09 Feb '10 14:09
    Please gimme the score and details.

    Tricks and traps are all I know. Look at that tournament I'm in.
    I've knock over the quick movers and non-developers.
    The rest will I will toil against. If they don't fall for a trick I'm doomed.

    Now we have taken over this lad's thread so I am going to show him SG's
    continuation. Instructive stuff there.
  15. 09 Feb '10 14:22 / 2 edits


    Tim was playing for Oxford 2 and they lost the match against Cheddleton 2-4, despite this game. Personally I think games like this should be worth more than one point. It would make the matches more interesting if they gave an extra point to the best game played!