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My first positional battle

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I think this was my first real positional battle, where neither of the players have made any material dropping blunders till the very end of the game.

the time control was 60' 30''.

the game is of importance to me for several reasons:
1) I broke 1700 with this game at standard time controls in FICS, which I believe is harder than here on RHP.
2)This game is the last game of my current and longest winning streak (6 games), and I haven't lost any standard time control games in 9 games (at FICS).
3)the character of the game is new to me, and it's a first, as mentioned in the title of the thread.



some notes about the game:
- I really cannot believe post-mortem analysis (with rybka human) shows black is actually very slightly better after move 21.Rh1, which turns out to be a slight mistake.

- my plan about the knight maneuvers turned out to be correct (Ne2-Ng1-Nf3-Nh2-Ng4), for which I'm proud of.

- I shouldn't have let black start very active counter play in the queenside, but I haven't analysed the game deep enough to see how I could've done it.

-27.Bc1 is a nice prophylactic move preventing any kind of rook penetration in the queenside after the pawns dissappear.

-Black's game was lost after ...Rb1??, and surprisingly (to me at least) ...Ne8 would've saved it and the game would be equal.

-the combination at the end is kind of nice 🙂 any other queen move at the 34th move would lose the queen with a skewer by the rook or fail to some kind of mate.

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nicely done 🙂

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ok forgive me if i've missed something here BUT:

move 33 - rxh7 - what was stopping the rook being captured by the king?

the last move doesn't appear to be mate(King to g7?)did this guy resign?

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Originally posted by epprob
ok forgive me if i've missed something here BUT:

move 33 - rxh7 - what was stopping the rook being captured by the king?

the last move doesn't appear to be mate(King to g7?)did this guy resign?
33... Kxh7 34 Nf6+ picks up the queen.
35... Kg7 36 Rg8#

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Originally posted by Green Paladin
33... Kxh7 34 Nf6+ picks up the queen.
35... Kg7 36 Rg8#

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Originally posted by diskamyl
I think this was my first real positional battle, where neither of the players have made any material dropping blunders till the very end of the game.

the time control was 60' 30''.

the game is of importance to me for several reasons:
1) I broke 1700 with this game at standard time controls in FICS, which I believe is harder than here on RHP.
2)Th ...[text shortened]... een with a skewer by the rook or fail to some kind of mate.
That's an awesome game. Here are my two bits.

First I have some qualms with Black's 8th move, instead I am much more in favor of 8...Nf3+ which can lead to a nasty kingside attack if white isn't careful and 9.Bxf3 gets rid of that bishop which weakens the squares around the king and three tempi just disappear so 9.Kh1 is basically forced. Next comes 9...h5 threatening 10....h4 when 10.h4 runs into 10... Nd7 so now we have to prevent ....h4 somehow or at least lessen its impact ... 10.h3 does that or 10.Qa4+ to play 11.Ng1 but let's go with 10. h3. 10...h4 11.Ng1 Nh2 12.hxg4 Nxf1 13.Bxf1 hxg3+ 14.Kg2 Nxe4!! 15.Nxe4 Qh4 16.Be2 Qh1+! 17.Kxg3 Be7 and black has more than equalized... Of course this isn't the only line but I'm sure black can get a good game after 8...Nf3+

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Originally posted by tomtom232
That's an awesome game. Here are my two bits.

First I have some qualms with Black's 8th move, instead I am much more in favor of 8...Nf3+ which can lead to a nasty kingside attack if white isn't careful and 9.Bxf3 gets rid of that bishop which weakens the squares around the king and three tempi just disappear so 9.Kh1 is basically forced. Next comes 9. . Of course this isn't the only line but I'm sure black can get a good game after 8...Nf3+
yes, in the game I figured I messed up somewhere in the opening to let black play Nd4 so early, because normally against Bg4 I play f3!? and have a comfortable position, but with the knight on that powerful square this wasn't possible.

I was thinking he would obviously play Nf3, after which I would go Kh1 and try to defend. the position seems perfectly defendable for white, but it was black's best shot for a win.

by the way, taking on f3 with the bishop isn't as bad as it looks, since the black bishop cannot stay around those weak squares for long, and the closed character of the game favors the side with the weakness too.

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Originally posted by diskamyl
yes, in the game I figured I messed up somewhere in the opening to let black play Nd4 so early, because normally against Bg4 I play f3!? and have a comfortable position, but with the knight on that powerful square this wasn't possible.

I was thinking he would obviously play Nf3, after which I would go Kh1 and try to defend. the position seems perfectly ...[text shortened]... squares for long, and the closed character of the game favors the side with the weakness too.
Maybe e3 instead of e4? I haven't looked at it but it controls the d4 square, keeps the pawn off the long diagonal and prepares for a d5 advance.

Yes, 9.Bxf3 isn't as bad as it looks but I'm paranoid and would probably exchange his light squared bishop and queen off as soon as I safely could (meaning it might hinder me from coming up with a better plan later)

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Quite a nice game - congratulations!

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Originally posted by tomtom232
Maybe e3 instead of e4? I haven't looked at it but it controls the d4 square, keeps the pawn off the long diagonal and prepares for a d5 advance.

Yes, 9.Bxf3 isn't as bad as it looks but I'm paranoid and would probably exchange his light squared bishop and queen off as soon as I safely could (meaning it might hinder me from coming up with a better plan later)
I have the solution to the 6...Nd4 problem, simply play 6.Nf3 then if 6...Nd4 7.Nxd4 exd4 8.Nb5

EDIT: 6.Nf3 also solves the 6...d5 problem which is why, I presume, you played 6.e4.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I have the solution to the 6...Nd4 problem, simply play 6.Nf3 then if 6...Nd4 7.Nxd4 exd4 8.Nb5

EDIT: 6.Nf3 also solves the 6...d5 problem which is why, I presume, you played 6.e4.
yes, that was what I thought after that my post. the problem is, I have a thing for Ne2 which demands more time (e3, Ne2 and then e4 for example), but in closed positions I just like it better, for the support of f4.
but I don't know when I should prefer nf3 instead. this game was one of them, I think, so I agree with you.

there's just too much to learn even for some narrow lines in one single opening, you could spend your whole life on it. gee, there's still the endgame, the pawn structures in middlegame, continous study of tactics, how is one supposed to get good!?

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Originally posted by exigentsky
Quite a nice game - congratulations!
thanks. this was the game that got between our blitz game by the way 🙂

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Originally posted by diskamyl
yes, that was what I thought after that my post. the problem is, I have a thing for Ne2 which demands more time (e3, Ne2 and then e4 for example), but in closed positions I just like it better, for the support of f4.
but I don't know when I should prefer nf3 instead. this game was one of them, I think, so I agree with you.

there's just too much to lea ...[text shortened]... pawn structures in middlegame, continous study of tactics, how is one supposed to get good!?
By being a genius! No, I would say in my opinion that you are quite a good chess player... keep at in and who knows where you could be in a few years.

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How did the game go??? 35.Rh8 ..Kg7 36.Qh5 ..Ra2 37.Kf3

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Originally posted by clifford
How did the game go??? 35.Rh8 ..Kg7 36.Qh5 ..Ra2 37.Kf3
After 35...Kg7 36.Rg8 will be mate.