1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Re8 9. O-O-O a6 10. g4 b5 11. h4 Nbd7 12. h5 Ne5 13. hxg6 hxg6 14. Bh6 Bh8 15. Bxb5 {!! The sacrificial assault starts here and this move is very crafty IMO. Its all sound I believe... fairly straight forward} axb5 16. Bf8 {!! WTH is going on!} Rxf8 17. Rxh8+ {! more material into the fire!} Kxh8 18. Qh6+ Nh7 19. Rh1 {The point as Alekhine liked to say. The original sac was played with this move in mind} Nd3+ 20. cxd3 Bxg4 21. Qxh7# {I think the moral of this story goes thus. The dark square bishop is important but it isn't the be all end all and my opponent wasted too much time trying to keep it on the board instead of expending his efforts trying to utilise it in coordination with his other advantage, the half open c-file. In the end neither dark square bishop is on the board.} 1-0
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 R ...[text shortened]... le. In the end neither dark square bishop is on the board.} 1-0[/pgn]
I think black might have a winning position after 16...Nh5.
This is so great that I thought it couldn't be true. But I can't refute it. Black can defend against the mate though I think if he gives some material back. What I'm posting is a series of seemingly forced moves (at least Black's moves are), and I'm not sure what happens after that.
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Re8 9. O-O-O a6 10. g4 b5 11. h4 Nbd7 12. h5 Ne5 13. hxg6 hxg6 14. Bh6 Bh8 15. Bxb5 axb5 16. Bf8 Rxf8 17. Rxh8+ Kxh8 18. Qh6+ Kg8 {The actually played move loses as in the game.} 19. Rh1 Nh5 {Disconnecting the queen and the rook. When White takes with a pawn, they're still disconnected.} 20. gxh5 {What else to keep putting pressure on the black king?} g5 {gxh5 loses because it allows White to reconnect his rook with his queen.} 21. Qxg5+ {Again. what else?} Kh7 {If 21....Kh8, then 22.Qh6+ Kg8 23.Rg1+ and black is in very deep trouble because White has Nf5 which threatens Qg7 mate. So 23... Bg4 doesn't work. If White can't find a check, then Black will play Rg8 at some point relieving the pressure.} 22. Nf5 {White still wants to play Qh6+} Bxf5 {The only way of preventing that.}23. Qxf5+ {What happens next? Can White make use of his passed pawn to actually win the game?}
Originally posted by WanderingKing This is so great that I thought it couldn't be true. But I can't refute it. Black can defend against the mate though I think if he gives some material back. What I'm posting is a series of seemingly forced moves (at least Black's moves are), and I'm not sure what happens after that.
[pgn] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 B hat happens next? Can White make use of his passed pawn to actually win the game?}[/pgn]
In the final position White has 2 extra pawns. Should be enough for win.
Originally posted by Pacifique In the final position White has 2 extra pawns. Should be enough for win.
Could you elaborate? Black still has his rook, and I wouldn't know how to win this if I was white. I'm trying to improve my endgame knowledge so any tips would be appreciated. (Not sure if this is endgame already, but it's close.)
This is a kind of a position, that makes me stop by the table... 🙂
In my humble (and quick) opinion if Black play K ... h8 White can get away with perpetual by Qg5.
If Black play 1... Kh6, White must stick with perpetual because
Rg1 Rg8,
Qf4+ Kh7,
Qf5+ Kh8,
does not give a check-mate.
But if someone finds a forced win for White here, I would really be embarrassed 😳
Originally posted by WanderingKing Could you elaborate? Black still has his rook, and I wouldn't know how to win this if I was white. I'm trying to improve my endgame knowledge so any tips would be appreciated. (Not sure if this is endgame already, but it's close.)
My fault - took a quick glance at the position and having some beers inside of me, did not notice that White lacks Rook. 😳
Originally posted by WanderingKing This is so great that I thought it couldn't be true. But I can't refute it. Black can defend against the mate though I think if he gives some material back. What I'm posting is a series of seemingly forced moves (at least Black's moves are), and I'm not sure what happens after that.
[pgn] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 B hat happens next? Can White make use of his passed pawn to actually win the game?}[/pgn]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Re8 9. O-O-O a6 10. g4 b5 11. h4 Nbd7 12. h5 Ne5 13. hxg6 hxg6 14. Bh6 Bh8 15. Bxb5 axb5 16. Bf8 Rxf8 17. Rxh8+ Kxh8 18. Qh6+ Kg8 {The actually played move loses as in the game.} 19. Rh1 Nh5 {Disconnecting the queen and the rook. When White takes with a pawn, they're still disconnected.} 20. gxh5 {What else to keep putting pressure on the black king?} g5 {gxh5 loses because it allows White to reconnect his rook with his queen.} 21. f4 {instead of Qxg5+ this must be winning. Black has to give away his knight or the pawns will be deadly on the g and h files after fxg5} f6 22. Nc6 {but white doesn't want it} Nxc6 23.fxg5 fxg5 {otherwise 24.g6} 24. Rg1 {and the king can't run to f7 because then Qg6 is mate}
My most memorable sac
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