New idea in the Chigorin Defense pt2..

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06 Apr '13 01:351 edit

As my previous thread on this idea has now expired, i can't add to it which is a pity. This is a rather neat win against a 2300 player no less! I don't know how many of you play on chesscube, but it strikes me that Nf3 ..d5 d4 ..Nc6 is very common, though most fail to continue with ..Bg5. Anyway, here's the game 😀

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[Event "ChessCube Game"]
[Site "www.chesscube.com"]
[Date "2013.04.06"]
[Round "-"]
[White "marinkatomb<a href="/chess-player/chesscube" onclick="XPopPlayerProfile( event, 'chesscube');return false;">@chesscube</a>.com"]
[Black "oamro<a href="/chess-player/chesscube" onclick="XPopPlayerProfile( event, 'chesscube');return false;">@chesscube</a>.com"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1913"]
[BlackElo "2287"]
[ECO "A04"]
[Time "01:37:39"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. Nf3  Nc6 2. d4  d5 3. c4  Bg4 4. Ne5 { This was the idea i introduced in my last thread. After the exchange on e5, black is hampered in his Kingside development. I tend to think that, even if the pawn eventually drops, white normally has a massive lead in development which more than compensates for the material. }  Nxe5 5. dxe5  dxc4 6. Qa4+  Qd7 7. Qxc4  O-O-O 8. Nc3  Kb8 9. Bf4  Be6 10. Qd3 { Blacks kingside is horribly tangled, swapping Queens is logical as it undoubles the pawns. White gets a nice easy game of it..  }  Qxd3 11. exd3  g6 12. Rd1  c5 13. Ne4  b6 14. Be2  Bxa2 { At first i thought black is just asking for trouble with this move, but he wants to allow hie knight to e7 and the bishop is in the way. He just over looked the tactics.. } 15. e6+  Kb7 16. Bf3  Ka6 17. Ra1  Rxd3 18. Rxa2+  Kb5 19. Be2  c4 20. Bxd3  cxd3 21. Kd2  fxe6 22. Be5  Nf6 23. Nxf6  exf6 24. Bxf6  Bb4+ 25. Kxd3  Rf8 26. Bd4  a5 27. Rc1  Rd8 28. Ke3  e5 29. Bc3  Bc5+ 30. Ke2  e4 31. b3  Rf8 32. Be1  h5 33. Rac2  g5 34. Rc4  Re8 35. Bd2  g4 36. Be3  Ba3 37. R1c2  Re6 38. g3  Bb4 39. Bd2  Bc5 40. Be3  Bb4 41. Rc7  Be7 42. Rb7  Ka6 43. Rbc7  Kb5 44. Rb7  Ka6 45. Rcc7  Bd8 46. Rd7  Rc6 47. Ra7+  Kb5 48. Rxd8  Rc2+ 49. Rd2  Rc3 50. Bd4  Rxb3 51. Rc2  a4 52. Rb7  Ka6 53. Rxb6+  Rxb6 54. Bxb6  Kxb6 55. Ra2  Kb5 56. Kd2  Kb4 57. Kc2  a3 58. Kb1  Kb3 59. Re2  a2+ 60. Ka1  Kc3 61. Rxe4  Kd2 62. Re5  Kd1 63. Rxh5  Ke2 64. Rg5  Kf3 65. Rxg4  Kxg4 66. Kxa2  Kf3 67. h4  Kxf2 68. h5  Kxg3 69. h6  Kg4 70. h7  Kf5 71. h8=Q  Kg6 72. Qg8+  Kf6 73. Qe8  Kg7 74. Kb3  Kf6 75. Kc4  Kf5 76. Kd5  Kf4 77. Qe4+  Kg5 78. Ke5  Kh6 79. Qg4  Kh7 80. Kf6   1-0

sonhouse
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06 Apr '13 04:372 edits
Originally posted by Marinkatomb
As my previous thread on this idea has now expired, i can't add to it which is a pity. This is a rather neat win against a 2300 player no less! I don't know how many of you play on chesscube, but it strikes me that Nf3 ..d5 d4 ..Nc6 is very common, though most fail to continue with ..Bg5. Anyway, here's the game 😀

[pgn][Event "ChessCube Game"]
[Site d5 Kf4 77. Qe4+ Kg5 78. Ke5 Kh6 79. Qg4 Kh7 80. Kf6 1-0
[/pgn]
Instead of 22 Nxf5 I would have checked with N-c3+ which keeps up pressure against the king.

Congratulations anyway! I would have been cremated🙂
Pacifique
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06 Apr '13 06:402 edits
After exchange of Queens Black has easy game, because of weak d-pawn. 14...Bxa2 is risky move indeed (14...Bh6 or 14...Nh6 were good choices), but Black was not obliged to lose in 1 move with 16...Kxa6??? - 16...Bd5 was quite obvious choice, just because the rest moves are obviously worse.
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06 Apr '13 12:432 edits
Originally posted by Pacifique
After exchange of Queens Black has easy game, because of weak d-pawn. 14...Bxa2 is risky move indeed (14...Bh6 or 14...Nh6 were good choices), but Black was not obliged to lose in 1 move with 16...Kxa6??? - 16...Bd5 was quite obvious choice, just because the rest moves are obviously worse.
It's not a perfect game by any stretch, it was at 5 minute time controls. I disagree about the d-pawn, 'technically' it is a weakness, but there are no developed pieces available to attack it other than the rook on d8. I felt that it was a reasonably pragmatic decision. Accept a minor weakness to remove blacks only strong piece, after the trade he's left with awkward development and zero attacking chances. Given that black has already castled Queenside, it's very difficult to see how he is going to get his kingside pieces over to the Queenside to help in any defense.
Marinkatomb
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06 Apr '13 12:46
Originally posted by sonhouse
Instead of 22 Nxf5 I would have checked with N-c3+ which keeps up pressure against the king.

Congratulations anyway! I would have been cremated🙂
I considered that, but the check just encourages the King to move out into open territory. Given the fact i was a rook up, exchanging just seemed logical. If i'm going to drop a piece in a time scramble, it is inevitably to a knight fork. 😉
sonhouse
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06 Apr '13 18:13
Originally posted by Marinkatomb
I considered that, but the check just encourages the King to move out into open territory. Given the fact i was a rook up, exchanging just seemed logical. If i'm going to drop a piece in a time scramble, it is inevitably to a knight fork. 😉
Your profile says you are leaving the ball and chain RHP. Is that so?
Pacifique
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06 Apr '13 19:33
Originally posted by Marinkatomb
It's not a perfect game by any stretch, it was at 5 minute time controls. I disagree about the d-pawn, 'technically' it is a weakness, but there are no developed pieces available to attack it other than the rook on d8. I felt that it was a reasonably pragmatic decision. Accept a minor weakness to remove blacks only strong piece, after the trade he's left ...[text shortened]... ee how he is going to get his kingside pieces over to the Queenside to help in any defense.
The problem with d-pawn is that i`ts not easy for White to create serious problems for opponent with such a pawn structure.
RJHinds
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06 Apr '13 21:55
Originally posted by Marinkatomb
It's not a perfect game by any stretch, it was at 5 minute time controls. I disagree about the d-pawn, 'technically' it is a weakness, but there are no developed pieces available to attack it other than the rook on d8. I felt that it was a reasonably pragmatic decision. Accept a minor weakness to remove blacks only strong piece, after the trade he's left ...[text shortened]... ee how he is going to get his kingside pieces over to the Queenside to help in any defense.
Very good game for 5 minute time control. I am sure I would have run out of time before I could have played 80 moves, since I am such a slow thinker.
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07 Apr '13 13:32
Originally posted by sonhouse
Your profile says you are leaving the ball and chain RHP. Is that so?
I've stopped play Correspondence as it's just a permanent distraction. Every time i need to do some work or go out for a few days, there's this nagging thought in the back of my mind about games on the internet. It had to go..
Marinkatomb
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07 Apr '13 13:36
Originally posted by Pacifique
The problem with d-pawn is that i`ts not easy for White to create serious problems for opponent with such a pawn structure.
Yes i do need to analyse the game really, you may well be right. It just strikes me that black has more issues with the Queens off. I'll see what fritz says 😉

EVENT	ChessCube Game
SITE	www.chesscube.com
DATE	2013.04.06
ROUND	-
WHITE	marinkatomb<a href="/chess-player/chesscube" onclick="XPopPlayerProfile( event, 'chesscube');return false;">@chesscube</a>.com
BLACK	oamro<a href="/chess-player/chesscube" onclick="XPopPlayerProfile( event, 'chesscube');return false;">@chesscube</a>.com
RESULT	1-0
WHITEELO	1913
BLACKELO	2287
ECO	A04

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