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  1. 07 Mar '11 02:01
    Earlier on a thread was pulled, quite rightly so, because some lad
    had posted 'Advice Please' about a game in progress.

    The ending in question looked drawish and people exlaimed it would
    very hard to lose such a position.

    On here I found ½ a dozen examples of players losing such 'safe postions
    and stumbled across a brillo-mungo piece of creativity that will feature
    in next week's blog.
    It's far too good to waste on a post. This is simply spiffing.

    There is no such thing as a 'safe' ending.
    On here even the most drawn of drawn positions still losses.

    You don't believe me?

    Game 1270556 White resigned.

    The final position.

  2. 07 Mar '11 03:29
    I imagine white resigned because black wouldn't take the draw. It's pretty irksome when people want to continue playing a game that is clearly a draw
  3. 07 Mar '11 03:29
    I imagine white resigned because black wouldn't take the draw. It's pretty irksome when people want to continue playing a game that is clearly a draw
  4. 07 Mar '11 04:57
    I don't know which one of these post is going to make me cry more.
  5. 07 Mar '11 10:06


    Maybe Hairy Palms was trying to get the lad a draw
    by threefold posting.

    I have found some K v K positions where one side times out.
    (Perhpas thinking the draw is auotmatically given).
  6. 07 Mar '11 10:06 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Earlier on a thread was pulled, quite rightly so, because some lad
    had posted 'Advice Please' about a game in progress.

    The ending in question looked drawish and people exlaimed it would
    very hard to lose such a position.

    On here I found ½ a dozen examples of players losing such 'safe postions
    and stumbled across a brillo-mungo piece of creativi /gid] White resigned.

    The final position.

    [fen]8/8/8/5K2/1k6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    Looking at the tourney result, white resigned so he could take his opponent through to the final group.


    edit: OOPs, I meant that he resigned because it allowed his opponent through to the final group.
  7. Subscriber davaniel
    1.Nf3
    07 Mar '11 10:47
    Originally posted by michael liddle
    Looking at the tourney result, white resigned so he could take his opponent through to the final group.


    edit: OOPs, I meant that he resigned because it allowed his opponent through to the final group.
    Neither. The opponent (who got the win) didn't go through to the final round and white would've been the only one through (instead of 3) to the final round, had it been a draw.
  8. 07 Mar '11 11:35
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I have found some K v K positions where one side times out.
    (Perhpas thinking the draw is auotmatically given).
    It should be, really; according to the FIDE rules, reaching a position from which neither player can get even a helpmate "immediately ends the game". Even the other player's refusal to take the draw is no excuse for White. You don't have to offer a draw in this situation, you can claim it and it will be awarded: FAQ.

    I've no idea what White was up to, but there was no reason at all for him to resign except daftness (which none of us is excempt from, least of all me).

    Richard
  9. 07 Mar '11 12:04
    Maybe he wanted to boast to his chums that he
    once lost this type of ending.

    You can picture the scene.

    A load of tough bikers are sitting in a bar showing
    each other their scars and tattoos.

    Suddenly they are joined by PeterH.

    "I once lost a bare King endgame."

    Awed silence.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Looking at the info on the game White's timebank was almost out.
    Perhaps he did not fancy getting skulled.
  10. Subscriber dinc168
    no where man
    07 Mar '11 18:36
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Earlier on a thread was pulled, quite rightly so, because some lad
    had posted 'Advice Please' about a game in progress.

    The ending in question looked drawish and people exlaimed it would
    very hard to lose such a position.

    On here I found ½ a dozen examples of players losing such 'safe postions
    and stumbled across a brillo-mungo piece of creativi ...[text shortened]... /gid] White resigned.

    The final position.

    [fen]8/8/8/5K2/1k6/8/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
    What a smart gentleman you are sir.Do you even know the circumstances of this game?No!As usual you have nothing better to do than post your tripe in these forums.First of all when you offer someone a draw you have to make a move.Why peterh decided to resign is beyond me.Maybe you should have asked before you assumed.
  11. 07 Mar '11 19:23
    Originally posted by dinc168
    What a smart gentleman you are sir.Do you even know the circumstances of this game?No!As usual you have nothing better to do than post your tripe in these forums.First of all when you offer someone a draw you have to make a move.Why peterh decided to resign is beyond me.Maybe you should have asked before you assumed.
    It would be a much more boring place here without GP's input. On balance, he's a BIG plus for RHP, imho.
  12. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    07 Mar '11 19:29
    Originally posted by dinc168
    What a smart gentleman you are sir.Do you even know the circumstances of this game?No!As usual you have nothing better to do than post your tripe in these forums.First of all when you offer someone a draw you have to make a move.Why peterh decided to resign is beyond me.Maybe you should have asked before you assumed.
    Grow up!

    If GP can be bothered I'm sure he can give a more eloquent reply. (Although he already gives a lot of his time to this site and it is all the better for that.)
  13. Subscriber thaughbaer
    Duckfinder General
    07 Mar '11 20:53
    Originally posted by dinc168
    What a smart gentleman you are sir.Do you even know the circumstances of this game?No!As usual you have nothing better to do than post your tripe in these forums.First of all when you offer someone a draw you have to make a move.Why peterh decided to resign is beyond me.Maybe you should have asked before you assumed.
    Exactly why are you upset here ? This thread and it's predecessor is about whether or not a game should end up in a draw. Quite clearly the referenced game with bare kings should have been a draw. I really don't see what your issue is.

    Mike
  14. 07 Mar '11 21:50 / 1 edit
    Hi Dinc.

    If I PM'd everyone before posting a game or an example then I'd
    forever being doing PM's.

    (however I usually PM a thank you to any game I use in the Blog).

    All the games are the property of RHP and open to anyone on RHP.
    I'm not making them up.
    Of course I assume what has happened. It's part of the fun.
    I enjoy looking for the odd and wierd.

    Perhaps if you had seen the pulled thread where some could not
    believe such a drawn position (King & Rook v King & Rook) could
    be lost you may have understood my posting a resignation
    in a bare Kings position.
    It was the most extreme example I could find.

    Tripe?

    Yup that sounds like me.
  15. 07 Mar '11 22:52
    Originally posted by davaniel
    Neither. The opponent (who got the win) didn't go through to the final round and white would've been the only one through (instead of 3) to the final round, had it been a draw.
    Yes, you are right; I didn't look at it properly! ( a bit like the way I play, I think!)