Since we are allowed to use opening databases, etc its hard to get an opening advantage when your are playing a decent opponent. I've had ppl who have played up to 10-13 moves of theory before actually thinking for themselves. Its hard to get any sort of advantage during the opening. The only way to win is during the middlegame i guess. What do you guys think?
Originally posted by RahimKAgeed, I like to play ppl who isnt refering to database, otherwise I would play a computer
Since we are allowed to use opening databases, etc its hard to get an opening advantage when your are playing a decent opponent. I've had ppl who have played up to 10-13 moves of theory before actually thinking for themselves. Its hard to get any sort of advantage during the opening. The only way to win is during the middlegame i guess. What do you guys think?
??? I'm saying its all about the middlegame isn't it? OTB your opponent won't play the best opening moves generally since he doesn't have access to a database. But on here they do, so thus is all about the middlegame isn't it?
I have no problem with ppl using a database on here... I personally use one for openings so i can learn them better for OTB play..
Originally posted by RahimKI don't think it's much different than OTB.
Since we are allowed to use opening databases, etc its hard to get an opening advantage when your are playing a decent opponent. I've had ppl who have played up to 10-13 moves of theory before actually thinking for themselves. Its hard to get any sort of advantage during the opening. The only way to win is during the middlegame i guess. What do you guys think?
Be it OTB or corr,most games are not decided in the opening,but in the middle- or endgame.
Btw,if your oppo plays 10-13 moves of theory,then so do you.It is no different in OTB,if you only follow theory for 6 moves,then so does your oppo,'cause theory ends there 🙂
who even knows all the theory moves in OTB play? I'm 1700 OTB and i only know the first several moves of theory and then i'm on my own...i've had a lot of my opponents play bad opening moves and have a decent advantage right out of the opening before move 10...
It think it very hard to get any sort of opening advantage here against decent players....Much easier to equalize on here since u have the best moves available to u...If u're not familiar with some opening u can look it up and play the best move minimizing the opening advantage u're opponent gets...
Originally posted by rbmorrisYour stance makes no sense for correspondence chess. A game can drag on for months or even years. Are you going to stop reading about chess for that whole time? You'd better, or you might read something that's applicable to your game, and if you use it, you would be cheating. You wouldn't be able to work on your pet openings for that upcoming OTB tournament either, because that would be putting book knowledge in your head that could be used in correspondence games.
I think that referring to an opening database is flat out cheating. I would NEVER do it, and refuse to paly anyone who does. You either know your stuff or you don't.
This is the reason that printed chess materials of all kinds are generally allowed in correspondence chess.
Originally posted by RahimKThis is correspondance chess and I think that using database is great way of learning particular opening.
Since we are allowed to use opening databases, etc its hard to get an opening advantage when your are playing a decent opponent. I've had ppl who have played up to 10-13 moves of theory before actually thinking for themselves. Its hard to get any sort of advantage during the opening. The only way to win is during the middlegame i guess. What do you guys think?
And it wouldn't really be interesting to me if I would have any advantage already on move 6.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemLOL! I loved this.
Your stance makes no sense for correspondence chess. A game can drag on for months or even years. Are you going to stop reading about chess for that whole time? You'd better, or you might read something that's applicable to your game, and if you use it, you would be cheating. You wouldn't be able to work on your pet openings for that upcoming OTB t ...[text shortened]... reason that printed chess materials of all kinds are generally allowed in correspondence chess.
Originally posted by RahimKVery true,I surely don't know too much theory,and I'm sure there were many games where you yourself made a bad move early on and your oppo got an opening advantage.But I doubt it was decisive.I'm willing to bet there were many possibilities to save the game in the middlegame and endgame.
who even knows all the theory moves in OTB play? I'm 1700 OTB and i only know the first several moves of theory and then i'm on my own...i've had a lot of my opponents play bad opening moves and have a decent advantage right out of the opening before move 10...
It think it very hard to get any sort of opening advantage here against decent players....Mu ...[text shortened]... u can look it up and play the best move minimizing the opening advantage u're opponent gets...
I'm an 1800 at ICC,and when analysing my own games,I always come across numerous positions were I could have saved the game,even win it,after I made a mistake in the opening.
Obviously,playing the opening is easier in corr,but really,at our level,openings rarely decide games.
Originally posted by rbmorrisYou should expect most of your (stronger) opponents to do this, since it's perfectly acceptable under the Terms of Service.
It's one thing to continue studying in your free time. It's another to go rifling through a book looking for your next move. If you need that as a crutch, it's fine with me. Just don't ask me to play against you.