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  1. 31 Jul '07 18:28
    We all have heard the phrase "Patzer sees check, patzer gives check." I would like to add a new one, "Patzer sees combination, patzer plays combination." I see this a lot especially with young players, they see what could be an easy combination that wins material and they go for it, without really even thinking about it. Take this game, for example, from a tournament I played in last weekend. This game gave me my quickest win in a rated otb tournament.

    Me vs. "Patzer"
    Round 3 of 5

    1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Bd7 (6..c4!) 7.b4 cxb4 8.cxb4 Nge7 9.Be3 Nf5 10.Bd3!(dia.)



    Here the normal move is 10..Nxe3, which has been proven to be much better for white, suddenly the other player decides I have made a blunder.

    10..Nfxd4? 11.Nxd4 Nxd4 12.0-0 and white is about to win the knight. The game ended soon 12..a5 13.Nd2 axb4 14.axb4 Rxa1 15.Qxa1 Bxb4 16.Bxd4 Bc5?? 17.Qa8+ 1-0

    I guess I'm saying it's more important to see the position correctly after the end of your combination then it is to just to play looking to win material.
  2. 31 Jul '07 18:41
    good game. i analyzed that in my head just so because i'm getting use to it. i don't know why he took the d pawn though he cannot help protect that knight because of b4 it prevents the bishop from helping. it does help me however in seeing a good combination. last night i was at the club and this guy went for a mate that a patzer would go for. i trapped his queen and knight and 5 minutes later he was still checking out the position. within about a min i found a good tactic. actually he threatened mate and had a lot of pressure on me even though i won his knight and i had to sac my knight to get even again and get his mate threats away. all in all i was lucky and had a better endgame knowlidge than him and used my rooks like baseball bats, hammering down pawns. but anyways that was a good game and nice to watch all the tactics. what was he rated?
  3. 31 Jul '07 18:44
    yes.
  4. 31 Jul '07 18:45
    Originally posted by kmac27
    good game. i analyzed that in my head just so because i'm getting use to it. i don't know why he took the d pawn though he cannot help protect that knight because of b4 it prevents the bishop from helping. it does help me however in seeing a good combination. last night i was at the club and this guy went for a mate that a patzer would go for. i trapped his q ...[text shortened]... pawns. but anyways that was a good game and nice to watch all the tactics. what was he rated?
    he is/was a respectable 1565
  5. 01 Aug '07 05:27
    i've seen many 1500 players fall for taking the poisened d pawn
  6. 01 Aug '07 09:00
    that's a very nice example of a "poisoned combination".
  7. Standard member anthias
    ambitious player
    01 Aug '07 09:06
    I may be 1600 now, but the 1500 inside me crings at the patzer comment. I did not feel like a patzer then It is an obvious blunder though.