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Subscribermarekt
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    15 Jun '19 07:53
    I'm new here, allow me to wonder about PGN created here:

    Dear marekt,

    You have recently requested a PGN of your games.

    [Event "Open invite"]
    [Site "https://www.redhotpawn.com"]
    [Date "2019.06.01"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "marekt"]
    [Black "kapenta"]
    [WhiteRating "1691"]
    [BlackRating "1366"]
    [WhiteElo "1691"]
    [BlackElo "1366"]
    [Result "*"]
    [GameId "13278423"]
    [SetUp "1"]
    [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/1P6/8/P1PPPPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq b3 0 1"]

    1. d5 Bc1b2 2. Ng8f6 e3 3. e6 b5 4. c6 a4 5. Bf8b4 c4 6. Bc8d7 Nb1c3 7. c5 Ng1f3 8. a6 Bf1d3 9. a5 O-O 10. b6 Nf3e5 11. Qd8e7 Qd1f3 12. Ra8a7 cxd5 13. Bb4xc3 dxc3 14. exd5 c4 15. d4 exd4 *

    No one chess game can start with 1.d5, to my knowledge.

    My question is: what happened to all very first moves in the game above?
  2. SubscriberPatzering
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    15 Jun '19 11:15
    It looks like a thematic game where white opened with pawn to b4.
    Black played d5 and that was the first recorded move.
  3. SubscriberPatzering
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    15 Jun '19 11:331 edit
    I found the game.
    It's an open invite where 1.b4 was the starting position.
    Unrated/thematic game
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    15 Jun '19 12:352 edits
     



    This was the starting board. So black was the first to.move. You are correct the first move cannot be d5 at least for white. But a game cannot start with a pawn on b4. This was not a typical game. In this game the first move was made by black.
  5. SubscriberBigDoggProblem
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    15 Jun '19 20:48
    I'd like the option, for thematic tourneys, of having a PGN that starts from the standard position, and has all the moves in it.
  6. SubscriberPatzering
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    15 Jun '19 20:52
    Me too.
    I'm surprised it recorded the way it did. 🤔
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    16 Jun '19 10:101 edit
    @Eladar

    No, never. White was the first to move.
    And - this is a simple example.
    What to do if the thematic line contains - say - 10 moves for White and Black?
    Shall PGN start with move no. 11?
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    16 Jun '19 14:03
    @marekt said
    @Eladar

    No, never. White was the first to move.
    And - this is a simple example.
    What to do if the thematic line contains - say - 10 moves for White and Black?
    Shall PGN start with move no. 11?
    I would think so yes. The pgn you put up came from a pre set board. That initial fen is how you show a pgn starting in the middle somewhere.
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