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  1. 14 Oct '08 02:13 / 1 edit
    I've been working through '303 Tactical Chess Problems' by Wilson & Albertson over the the last few months. I'm doing pretty well but I'm stumped on a couple of them.
    On this one, I think the answer is wrong and/or the position is not set up correctly in the book. Any comments? Is the book wrong or am I an idiot? Or both?



    The book says this is the solution: 1. Rg4 wins the queen.

    Huh?
  2. 14 Oct '08 02:14 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    I've been working through '303 Tactical Chess Problems' by Wilson & Albertson over the the last few months. I'm doing pretty well but I'm stumped on a couple of them.
    On this one, I think the answer is wrong and/or the position is not set up correctly in the book. Any comments? Is the book wrong or am I an idiot? Or both?

    [fen]4r1k1/2p2p1p/3p3b/6q ...[text shortened]... 1/6K1 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    The book says this is the solution: 1. Rg4 wins the queen.

    Huh?
    If it's white to move then just 1.Rg4?

    The book appears to be wrong.. 1.Rg4 just loses a rook.
  3. 14 Oct '08 02:20
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    I've been working through '303 Tactical Chess Problems' by Wilson & Albertson over the the last few months. I'm doing pretty well but I'm stumped on a couple of them.
    On this one, I think the answer is wrong and/or the position is not set up correctly in the book. Any comments? Is the book wrong or am I an idiot? Or both?

    [fen]3r2k1/2p4p/3p3b/6q1/ ...[text shortened]... 1/6K1 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    The book says this is the solution: 1. Rg4 wins the queen.

    Huh?


    that seems to make it better.
  4. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    14 Oct '08 04:15
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    I've been working through '303 Tactical Chess Problems' by Wilson & Albertson over the the last few months. I'm doing pretty well but I'm stumped on a couple of them.
    On this one, I think the answer is wrong and/or the position is not set up correctly in the book. Any comments? Is the book wrong or am I an idiot? Or both?

    [fen]4r1k1/2p2p1p/3p3b/6q ...[text shortened]... 1/6K1 w - - 0 1[/fen]

    The book says this is the solution: 1. Rg4 wins the queen.

    Huh?
    I think the book got it wrong this time. It happens now and again.
  5. 14 Oct '08 10:23
    I use to spend days and days just doing these problems.

    Sometimes you would come across one where you thought it was
    set up wrong because you could not solve it.
    Eventually you give up - check the answer and find it's you and not
    the book that was wrong.

    In this case however it looks like the book is wrong.

    My big lemon was once looking at a complicated game position for
    over 40 minutes and not 'seeing it' - I finally cracked - something
    I hated doing - and looked at the answer.

    I was looking for a White win - it was Black to play. Doh!
  6. 14 Oct '08 12:07 / 1 edit
    Not sure if I am missing something, but does this work?

    1. Rg4 Qxg4 2. Qd5+

    EDIT: Duh! Ignore me. I was looking at the second board position without the pawn on f7.
  7. 14 Oct '08 18:20
    Yes, strange position with a strange solution.
  8. 15 Oct '08 02:31
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I use to spend days and days just doing these problems.

    Sometimes you would come across one where you thought it was
    set up wrong because you could not solve it.
    Eventually you give up - check the answer and find it's you and not
    the book that was wrong.

    In this case however it looks like the book is wrong.

    My big lemon was once looking at a ...[text shortened]... ing - and looked at the answer.

    I was looking for a White win - it was Black to play. Doh!
    That's happened to me a few times, although I'd never admit it. Oops.
  9. 15 Oct '08 02:48
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    That's happened to me a few times, although I'd never admit it. Oops.
    To pull off that joke properly you have to edit the "oops" in after you post it.
  10. 15 Oct '08 10:19
    You're absolutely right! Oh, and thanks for your 2 cents regarding the problem.
  11. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    15 Oct '08 10:54
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    You're absolutely right! Oh, and thanks for your 2 cents regarding the problem.
    So do you play the violin?
  12. 16 Oct '08 01:33
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    So do you play the violin?
    Yes, and my name is Patrick. I know, I know, my ID is very creative.
  13. 16 Oct '08 01:34
    Originally posted by violinpatrick
    Yes, and my name is Patrick. I know, I know, my ID is very creative.
    I bet you can't guess what my ID is about.
  14. 16 Oct '08 02:44
    I'm confused and obviously missing something here....

    Doesn't Rg4 pin blacks queen to its king? Besides that, if Qxg4, whites bishop can recapture. What am I missing? I know it's something obvious.
  15. 16 Oct '08 02:55
    Originally posted by stockton1984
    I'm confused and obviously missing something here....

    Doesn't Rg4 pin blacks queen to its king? Besides that, if Qxg4, whites bishop can recapture. What am I missing? I know it's something obvious.
    After 1...Qxg4 blacks bishop on h6 threatens whites queen so if white plays 2.Bxg4 then black playes 2...Bxd2 and white is out a rook.