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Originally posted by AudreyxSophieI agree. The vast majority of time you are simply down a queen, but you have to ask yourself:
don't give until you know he can win....
If he does not show you that is game is winning. keep playing, until he prouve his point, and if he never do it, you will be back.
1) Is material the most pertinent part of the position, or are there other factors that outweigh material considerations?
2) Did your opponent forego other necessary considerations (his own king safety, inability to stop a passed pawn, loss of equivalent or compensating material) because he was enticed by the lure of easy material? Queens have little value if he is mated.
3) (The good one) How many moves was your queen hanging before your opponent noticed? If the answer is anywhere near "several", then your opponent is also missing stuff, and the probability is high that they might return the favor! 😉
Paul
Originally posted by cheshirecatstevensWhat a beautiful and perfect example!
Try this one. Just keep fighting for the best move.
[pgn][Event "July 2009 Banded Grand Split Three Seven I 1400-1450"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2009.07.31"]
[EndDate "2009.10.21"]
[Round "1"]
[White "cheshirecatstevens"]
[Black "benda"]
[WhiteRating "1547"]
[BlackRating "1544"]
[WhiteELO "1547"]
[BlackELO "1544"]
[Res ...[text shortened]... a6c4 Kg8h8
21. Bc4f7 Qg6c2 22. Bf7xe8 Qc2xb2 23. Be8g6 1-0
[/pgn]
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The rhp victory from furthest behind materially?
With white's next move checkmating.
If you are catastrophically behind against someone who will not just hang pieces there is no point playing safe moves, you need a plan/attack that could work. Sneakiness or crazyness is more important than solidity or soundness in this situation.
This is not as big a difference but i was still down a major piece against an opponent who was significantly higher rated at the time.
Originally posted by mathmojust like mathmo says, having a plan is essential. If you don't have one and are significant material down it is hardly worthwile playing on. But this is also true if you are wasted strategically. As soon as one player has a significant advantage, of any kind, the only way to win is to play very charply and agressivly, sudenly all rules don't count anymore, material is worth nothing, your position is not worth anything anymore as well. It's either your head or your oponents. Strike at his face and something will come out of it, at least an interesting struggle.
The rhp victory from furthest behind materially?
[pgn]
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2007.03.15"]
[EndDate "2007.03.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "mathmo"]
[Black "*"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "3315078"]
1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Bf1b5 a6 4. Bb5a4 b5 5. Ba4b3 Ng8f6 6. O-O Nf6xe4
7. Rf1e1 Ne4xf2 8. d4 Nf2xd1 9 ...[text shortened]... 3. Nc3d5 Qd4e4 24. Kg2h2 g6 25. Nd5f6 1-0
[/pgn]
In the game I show, I am strategically banckrupt. The whole game I have been dreaming about attacking his king and as a consequence I gave him all kind of benifits. Suddenly you will see, it is either all or nothing for me, and I go for it. Notice how clearly the plan develops (it was not hard to find, its pretty much the only thing in the position):
And suddenly the tables are turned.
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Some wonderful games and I know I could add to the collection but the best
advise surely for Sniper is try not to follow this path.
99% of the time a Queen loss is a total loss .
So try not to blunder away the lady but if you do make her expensive as possible
and do not be afriad to invest more material. You have nothing to lose.
Queens often get lost in the opening due a player trying to win the game
with just a Queen.
I often teach juniors and I cure them of this by giving them this position.
I offer them £5.00 if they can checkmate the Black King.
"As good as she is, she always needs help, she cannot do it alone."
Here is a game by Cochrane where he give Queen odds and actually uses
this fact to expose his King and run to d1.
White plays active chess, his minor pieces take over and he mates in 14 moves.
Originally posted by dirtysniperOnly, when you've got a lost game through a blunder it may be time to cut your losses, sacrifice, gambit, play wildly to confuse your opponent into blundering
Ok, I know there are a lot of smart players out there, so I am wondering, any tips, games worth studying, about playing once you have blundered and lost your Queen?
Remember he won't necessarily know you've blundered, make it look like you haven't