Originally posted by greenpawn34THAT is the beauty of chess! It is pure logic and mathematics that is best applied using creativity and abstract visualization.
I recall a Fischer game v one of the Byrne brothers.
The GM's in the press box all agreed Fischer was lost.
The next move to come through was Byrne's resignation.
Often the logical side of things are at opposite ends of the creative side. Chess makes a creative art out of logic and math. I can't think of anything else that ties the logical and creative mind together so naturally.
When someone like Bobby Fischer is able to pull off a move that stuns some of the greatest chess players.... do you call him a great artist or a mathematical genius?
I do not yet consider myself to be an educated player, the deeper workings of the game remain a mystery to me. Playing against a player of say, 2000, I'm pretty sure I'll lose, and I can't exactly pinpoint where it went wrong (aside from the obvious mistakes, that DO make me slap my head), but with rivals of 1600-1800 I'm almost always aware of the good and bad moves. Players of 1400-1500 throw away their positions in ways I wouldn't even consider.
What I find amazing about chess is the fact that I started playing at RHP with a rating of about 1400, and I would have given the same answer just lowering the mentioned ratings.
Originally posted by EladarToo funny.
That story reminded me of the time when I was playing Texas Hold'em and folded because I didn't think that my three of a kind nor my pair could beat a flush.
I play chess like that. My most effective tactic is to give up all my pieces then make silly faces and passing gas until my opponent gives up. Seems to be working. LOL
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As a USCF 1900 player, I hopefully qualify as a "high ranked player" 🙂. Anyways, when I watch weaker players play games, sometimes I feel a little... frustrated is not the word, perhaps restless is better... when I see them miss a simple tactic. The truth is that in most of those games, 4-5 move tactics don't come up too often, and if you honestly ask most class A players, I doubt they'd be able to see that many 4-5 tactics at a glance. As others have suggested, sometimes you see some positionally bizarre moves that don't appear to make too much sense; I think the difference between a strong player and a weaker one is not just tactics; for example, whenever I play a 1400 USCF, in the end I usually get them on tactics, but only after their position is much worse anyways. So to answer your question USArmyParatrooper, I guess sometimes I wince at the moves they make, but I also remember what it was like when I was at that level, and I'm sure that masters would wince at my games as well.
I don't want to be a braggart or anything and I don't want to say I can "see 4-5 move tactics at a glance" but I can usually see the patterns for a tactic right away especially in others games. When I get too engrossed in my own position in a game I often don't see them right away. I think that's the main difference is pattern recognition.