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Question on KG, 3...Be7

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Hi All,

Really struggling with this one. After:

1.e4 e5
2.f4 exf4
3.Nf3 Be7

Hows does white stop the check on h4 and the impending problems for his king? I can't find a way!

Thank you all in advance.

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4. Bc4 Bh4+ 5. Kf1 is what seems vaguely familiar (I don't play the KG from either side)

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white do not need to stop the check on h4.
it is useless.

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Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
white do not need to stop the check on h4.
it is useless.
I wouldn't call the bishop check useless - but if you are afraid to give up castling and move your king early in the game then do not play the king's gambit. All openings involve trade-offs, in this case white is betting that the bishop being misplaced and consuming time is worse than moving his king. We play the game to discover who is right. If you're not interested in that question then play another opening.

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Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
white do not need to stop the check on h4.
it is useless.
This is just an opinion, but the move in question is the Cunningham Defense, and I think it is a very reasonable black choice. I play the KG as white, and I hate meeting it. It is also the defense I choose as Black if I play ...e5 and my opponent plays the KG.

GM Gallagher writes in his book on the KG that "In practice, 3. ... Be7 is usually seen as one of the most solid ways of meeting the King's Gambit. Black calmly starts to develop his kingside whilst also giving himself the option of ...Bh4+. It is especially popular amongst the well-schooled ex-Soviet players."

He goes on to say that he recommends studying 4. Nc3 and 4. Bc4 against it, as the positions often transpose.

Hope this helps a little.

Paul Leggett

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Hi

Pay a vist to this site's huge collection of game played.

http://www.timeforchess.com/gamesexplorer/index.php?flip=0&co=-&u=-1&c=1400&a=1

And see how your peers are playing this opening.

The following game is a good indication.

Don't worry about that pawn on h2 - it's your new friend.

Black can attack h2 with Queen, Rooks, Knights and a Bishop.

He will never be able to take it.

On a personal note I think the King's Gambit is a mugs opening.
You have no need to expose your King in this manner as White
especially when there are four other better moves in the position
after 1.e4 e5.

2.Nf3, 2.Nc3 2.Bc4 and 2.d4.

2.f4 only works if Black is stupid enough to waste a tempo with 2...exf4.

I love playing against it. 2....d5! Black has equalised.

However if must play f4 then 2.Bc4 has some cute delayed f4
variations that can and often do transpose into KG type positions
and you side step the other guy's pet KG defence.

Here is the game. White wins it with just a Knight & Bishop.
There are quite a few games with this line on the RHP DB.
Worth a visit to get ideas from.

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Hi

Pay a vist to this site's huge collection of game played.

http://www.timeforchess.com/gamesexplorer/index.php?flip=0&co=-&u=-1&c=1400&a=1

And see how your peers are playing this opening.

The following game is a good indication.

Don't worry about that pawn on h2 - it's your new friend.

Black can attack h2 with Queen, Rooks, Knights a ...[text shortened]... . Nf3d4 Ng8f6 15. Nd4f5 Qe7c7 16. Nf5xh4 cxd5 17. Nh4g6 1-0[/pgn]
Call me "Mugsy"!😀

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Originally posted by KingoftheRink
Hi All,

Really struggling with this one. After:

1.e4 e5
2.f4 exf4
3.Nf3 Be7

Hows does white stop the check on h4 and the impending problems for his king? I can't find a way!

Thank you all in advance.
When I first saw this question I thought oh good a question I actually know the answer too since playing 4.Bc4 Bh4+ 5.Kh1 is more or less normal and one reasonable possibility.This position does discombobulate the king a bit but it also kinda misplaces blacks bishop since for example
black plays his N to f6 soon he might say woops i just gambited my bishop on h4.

Then I thought how about if one does actually try to stop the check hmm this isnt so common but i predict 4.g3 might be possible planning for example 4...fxg3 5.Nc3 which does gambit material its true but seems tempting to try to me.

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"...stop the check on h4?"

Don't worry about the check.

You've been checked before and you lived.

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I've done this a few times, with 100% results on this site and OTB. I think it's called the Three Pawns gambit.

It's not entirely sound if black plays properly, but it's fun to play 🙂


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Thanks for the replies everyone.

Greenpawn: I reason I wanted to start playing the KG to get into some more tactical attacking games, seeing as I need to work on this aspect of my game - I normally play the QG! I appreciate the feedback though 🙂

Thanks again to all who posted.

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Hi King.

You can get tactcis from any opening QG 1.d4 d5 2.e4!.

Then there is the exchange variation 1.d4 d5 2.c3 e6 3.cxd5.
This has some sharp lines.

The Danish 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3is always fun.
for king pawn openings.

If you play the KG and some wide eyes play 2...d5 then it's you
who are defending a pawn plus infront of an exposed King.

One slip and you will get more than a harmless check on h5.

But forget White, why risk your plus - look for tactical openings from your Black's.

1d4 d5 2.c4 e5! Game On.

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Originally posted by AudreyxSophie
white do not need to stop the check on h4.
it is useless.
I played Be7 over n over n found it no good... the players i lost to always allowed the h4+ and just moved the king... blacks attack looks good but seems to evaporate a few moves later...like the 2 games above the white king gets guarded by blacks pawn!!

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what really happen again after exd5, I don't remember. but like that thing as white.