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How diffucult do you think this problem is ?

I would say it's around 1900-2100




I say the solution is:

White is down a minor piece but has a strong attack on the black king.

1.f6

The following lose: 1...gxf6 and black gets mated.
1...g6 and black gets mated.
1...black queen moves also lose.

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1.f6 Nxc4 2.fxe7 Bxd4+ 3.Kh1 Nxe7 4.Rxf7 hxg5 5.Rxf8+ Kxf8 6.Nc3

and it's roughly equal. Black might have a slight advantage after 6...Be6.

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1.Qg6 looks decisive too.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
1.Qg6 looks decisive too.
im pretty sure that Qg6 just loses another minor piece.

1. Qg6 Qxg5 (now white has no mate threat)

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Originally posted by Stockton
im pretty sure that Qg6 just loses another minor piece.

1. Qg6 Qxg5 (now white has no mate threat)
Yes.

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Originally posted by Stockton
im pretty sure that Qg6 just loses another minor piece.

1. Qg6 Qxg5 (now white has no mate threat)
ops. missed that. well then 1.f6 is correct move order here.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
ops. missed that. well then 1.f6 is correct move order here.
What rating do you think that problem is?

I gave my solution which I think is the best line for white. What you think?

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Originally posted by RahimK
Yes.
YES! i got one right.

edit: oh yea, and after ...Qxg5 black has a mate threat of his own. Qg6 is probably one of the worst moves on the board.

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Originally posted by RahimK
What rating do you think that problem is?

I gave my solution which I think is the best line for white. What you think?
in CTS that puzzle should have 2000-2100 rating. Most players would get first move, 1.f6, right (assuming that it is the best move), but after that its lot harder as there seems to be no clear win.

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Originally posted by Jusuh
in CTS that puzzle should have 2000-2100 rating. Most players would get first move, 1.f6, right (assuming that it is the best move), but after that its lot harder as there seems to be no clear win.
Lots of hard puzzles in the Reinfeld book, I'm suprised how hard some of them are.

I think the position is equal after the line I give. Don't see anything better for white besides 1.f6 which basically equalizes if Black doesn't make the mistakes I mentioned.

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Originally posted by RahimK
How diffucult do you think this problem is ?

I would say it's around 1900-2100
possibly. but I think the only reason it's hard is because the best play gives only equality, and you don't tend to look for those solutions in a tactical problem (but in a game you do). you see the f6 instantly, but waste time looking for the win that just isn't there.

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Originally posted by wormwood
possibly. but I think the only reason it's hard is because the best play gives only equality, and you don't tend to look for those solutions in a tactical problem (but in a game you do). you see the f6 instantly, but waste time looking for the win that just isn't there.
That and it's pretty deep. Have to calculate it all the way till the end, 7 moves deep.

I've done 70 puzzles so far of the Reinfeld 1001 combinations and I've never seen anything like them before.

Very challenging compared to most online and book problems. Even the Winning chess Tactics tests(first 2) seem easier then some of these problems.

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Originally posted by RahimK
That and it's pretty deep. Have to calculate it all the way till the end, 7 moves deep.

I've done 70 puzzles so far of the Reinfeld 1001 combinations and I've never seen anything like them before.

Very challenging compared to most online and book problems. Even the Winning chess Tactics tests(first 2) seem easier then some of these problems.
why do you have to calculate so deep ? what options do you have ?
any other move but f6 is loosing fast, so I do not think you need to go so deep with the analysis because it is the ONLY move that I can see that can keep you in the game and that gives some nice tactical chances...
I think that the problem is harder when you have many attacking options(all playable) and you have to select the winning/drawing one, most accurate.
I can not see any other move by white that can save the hanging pieces.

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