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  1. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    25 Feb '10 16:31 / 3 edits
    This is another of my "RHP's Best" picks - this time David Tebb vs Northern Lad
    Enjoy the game, I look forward to David and GP's corrections and opinions



    [Event "Clan league"]
    [Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
    [Date "2006.10.02"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "David Tebb"]
    [Black "Northern Lad"]
    [Result "1-0"]
    [ECO "D30"]
    [WhiteElo "2366"]
    [BlackElo "2348"]
    [PlyCount "83"]
    [EventDate "2006.??.??"]

    1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 {The slav} 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6

    {Turning blacks pawn
    structure into a semi-slav} 5. Nbd2 {Deeper into the Queens Gambit Declined -
    the game has left modern slav lines - but not theory the Knight on d2 focuses
    on c4, a focal point in whites space. However, the knight has not lost any of
    its value vs Nc3 - the Knight still defends the ever important e4, defends the
    c pawn and doesn't limit the scope of any of whites pieces - The dark squared
    bishop is being prepared to go to b2!} Bd6 6. b3

    {defending c4, and opening
    the long diagnal for the bishop (Bb2) once again white is focusing his
    development towards the central squares} O-O 7. Bd3

    {defending whites e4
    weakness, and attacking h7 - accelerating the castle. Be2 is also playable,
    but white has plans which do not allow Ne4.} Nbd7 8. Bb2 {Placing the bishop
    on the long diagnal - completing a fianchetto. Notice that white now has both
    of his bishops pointing towards the black monarch, as the board simplifies,
    the scope and range of these bishpos will grow, and there value will increase.
    This development of the bishop pair can turn a strong attack into a decisive
    one.} Re8

    {each players pieces are being developed towards the e file, black
    responds easily with more development - to the same simple point on the board.
    Similarly Qc7 seems well advised here, over defending e5 and bringing the
    queen to a thematic square in the QGD, and slav theory.} 9. Ne5 c5

    {Black
    makes a very difficult decision. Black probably has good options with dxc5,
    creating a hole in front of whites pawn to place his pieces. However, black
    has not focused his development on d5, and relocation to exploit this new
    outpost may be to time consuming. c5! enters a new line of theory. The QGD
    Semmering Variation.} 10. O-O Qc7 11. f4

    {A frightening push - this move is
    well in theory and is encouraged in the Semmering white has his pieces
    coordinated towards the king, and opening up this space for a kingside attack
    is well within this openings theory.} b6 12. Rf3

    {White has quietly done
    something amazing - and enormous. Here white can easily continue playing
    quiety with Rc1 and intentions of Qf3, or Qg4 soon. Instead, white has found a
    way to pry open some space, and perhaps most importantly, bring his pieces
    into space - in front of the black king. An attacking chance. White will have
    to humor black - and simplify the center.} Bb7 {With Bb7 it is important to
    ensure that black continues to bite on granite. Placing one of blacks pawns in
    his bishops own way, is valuable - cxd5 clogs the hole right back up.} 13. Rh3
    Nf8

    {Black finds a quiet, yet well advised defense. Not only does the Knight
    now protect h7, but also protects f7 with the queen, and creates more space
    for his pieces. Furthermore Ng6 alleviates some concerns if the pesky d3
    bishop can be quieted.} 14. Rc1 Rac8 15. cxd5 {With Bb7 it is important to
    ensure that black continues to bite on granite. Placing one of blacks pawns in
    his bishops own way, is valuable - cxd5 clogs the hole right back up.} exd5 16.
    Ng4

    {White has done it! He has created the attacking chance he set out for!}
    Nxg4 17. Qxg4 {No matter how you slice it - this is not a time black is
    getting comfortable.} g6 18. f5 Qe7

    {A strong move without a doubt - My
    personal tastes lean towards Qd7, skewering the pawn to the queen - and
    defending against Bb5!} 19. fxg6 {opening up the kings position.} fxg6 {after
    the capture, the knights defense of the g6 square becomes valuable - the pesky
    bishop - is still pesky.} 20. Rf1 {knabbing the open file and attacking a g6 defender} c4

    {it really is a pesky piece.} 21. bxc4 Bb4


    {Black correctly attacks the knight, the well placed knight is whites glue! If
    the knight is displaced, dxc4 relocates the bishop and makes for a terrorizing
    queenside pawn march.} 22. Qe2 {white has no intentions of relocating his
    knight, or his bishop. Note that Bc1 doesn't work as Bxd2 Bxd2 dxc4! and the
    bishop cannot do the job the knight had done.} Rc7 {The c file will open up
    one way, or another. When it does, black makes the evaluation that connecting
    his rooks on this file will be of great worth.} 23. cxd5 Bxd5 24. e4 Be6 25.
    Rg3

    Bxa2 {Recapturing pawns - to an even exchange.} 26. Nf3 {The knight is no
    longer needed on d2} a5 27. Ng5 Be6 {Disallowing Rh3, and Qg4. The bishop
    greatly influences whites attacking possibilities.} 28. h4

    {White intends to
    continue his attack - and dislodge blacks defense - especially the g6 pawn.} a4
    29. Bb5 Ra8 30. Nxe6 Nxe6 31. h5 Qd6 32. e5 Qd5

    33. hxg6 h6 34. g7 a3 35. Ba1
    Rac8 {threatening whites back rank - as the black pawn grows closer.} 36. Qf2

    {
    White attacks f8, and in doing so reveals a disturbing tactic - mate will fall
    quickly if white is allowed to play Qf8+ (therefore the bishop on b5 is not
    "hanging" ) 36. .. Qxb5 37. Qf8+ Bxf8 38. gxf8=Q+ Kh7 and the rest is elementary
    } Ng5 {Better is Nxg7.} 37. Ba4 Qd8 {Defending f8, and the knight on g5.} 38.
    Qe3

    {Does several things - the f8 square is over protected, so the queens
    presence is of little use, but the Q on e3 places a major piece behind a
    passed pawn (pair) attacks the g5 knight, and the h6 pawn, it attacks
    the a pawn - indirectly tying the bishop officially to its diagnal - and creating a
    possible check.} b5 39. Bb3+ Kxg7 40. Rf6

    {worse - but more clear - is e6....
    but what has happened!?! Blacks defense of g5 has been cutoff - if white is
    allowed Rxg5 hxg5 Qxg5! and once again, its elementary.} Rc1+ 41. Kh2 R1c7 42.
    d5

    {Still conclusive...however whites threat on g5 is definitive as well - 42.
    Rxg5+ hxg5 43. Qxg5+ Kh8 44. Rh6+ Rh7 45. Rxh7+ Kxh7 46. Bc2+ 1-0 Where black
    is powerless after the loss of his queen by a deflection.} 1-0



    -GIN
  2. Standard member Exuma
    Anansi
    26 Feb '10 06:52
    K - it was a good read Nowa. And you kept your metaphors chessish and I am thankful. Thanks!
  3. 26 Feb '10 19:49 / 2 edits
    Hi Gin.

    (why do you sign off GIN in some posts but not others?).

    Anyway.

    I was going to PM feedback but perhaps others may want to take some advice.

    And bear in mind it is only advice, take it or leave it.

    If you realy want to attract the likes of DT and NL (another very good known OTB player)
    onto the Chess Forum then do not expect them to plod their way through
    this 'dogs dinner'.

    If you think you have something to say, say it.
    It does not matter if you are right or wrong it's an opinion that is OK.

    But you must present it in a way that makes the reader want to read it.
    You must take the time and effort to tidy it up and make it readable.

    Intro - why are you showing it, what do we look out for.

    You make no mention of this.

    'This is another of my "RHP's Best" picks,' and that's it.

    What about the fact these two have clashed on here 24 times giving you
    an opportunity to show you have done research. P.24 with 2 wins each.

    To whet your appetite look at this postion that appears in the game.



    White passed d & e pawns v Black's passed a & b pawns.

    Of course the central power the White pawns exert is the telling factor
    but the play had to be exact from White.

    If the big pieces get swapped off and this goes to an ending then the Black King
    can help halt the d & e pawns but those a + b pawns can run home.

    Also keep your eye on the h-pawn, he figures in a promotion combination
    that is in the notes.

    Something like that.

    Here is an exact copy of what you say, presented the way I would have done it.

    David Tebb vs Northern Lad

    1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6

    The slav.

    3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6



    Turning blacks pawn structure into a semi-slav.

    5.Nbd2

    Deeper into the Queens Gambit Declined the game has left modern
    slav lines but not theory, the Knight on d2 focuses on c4, a focal point
    in whites space.

    However, the knight has not lost any of its value vs Nc3.
    The Knight still defends the ever important e4, defends the c pawn and doesn't
    limit the scope of any of whites pieces.

    The dark squared bishop is being prepared to go to b2!

    6...Bd6 6. b3

    ************ example ends **************

    And so on. Loads of space, get rid of the {pgn markers} and bold
    the main moves leaving analyse in light mode.

    So compare mine and yours and tell me which one you would think
    would get read more. Which one invites the reader in.

    Now the notes.

    And remember you did ask for my opinion.

    First you must ask yourself do you think you are good enough to pass
    in depth analysis and comments on that game.

    It's up to you how good you think you are but if you notice I very very
    rarely stick my beak into games played between very good players.

    I will if I see a missed shot or an interesting idea.
    (As I did in DT's game in another thread where a Rook sac appeared)

    Then who are you aiming it at?

    If it's on here then you must dumb it down.

    A horrible thing to say I know but no malice intended.

    Keep it within the frame of most the readers on here and they will enjoy
    what you write because they can understand what you say and you are
    not going over their or my heads.

    A few will post a question if it's not clear and they don't understand.

    A lot I fear will not so the whole excerise of you writing and
    them looking at it has been pointless.

    In depth notes like the one you have tried need to be polished and
    the fewer the notes the better unless it really is brilliant super-duper
    variation you want them to see and then YOU MUST use the PGN thingy
    from a set postion to show it (Black cannot go first).

    Your notes.

    'The slav'.

    What is that meant to mean to the average 1400 player on here?

    Turning blacks pawn structure into a semi-slav.

    They are now totally confused and we are only on the second note.

    Deeper into the Queens Gambit Declined the game has left modern
    slav lines but not theory...


    (not left the theory of what? and where did the QDG come from?)

    Your reader just jumped out of the window.

    You assume too much. Less said the better.

    If I had to note up this game my very first note would have been after move;

    5.Nbd2



    Not the usual square for a Knight in QP games c3 is the natural home.

    The idea is White keeps open the a1-h8 diagonal for the c1 Bishop and from d2
    the Knight holds the c4 pawn can perhaps leap to f3.

    I'm not saying mine is any better, they are straight off the cuff,
    But I have not guessed my reader knows about Slav's and how they can
    tranpose in QGD's etc.

    I have not read all the notes because as I said the format is ugly and I cannot
    seperate the notes from the moves without hard work.

    But this is messy.

    "{ White attacks f8, and in doing so reveals a disturbing tactic - mate will fall
    quickly if white is allowed to play Qf8+ (therefore the bishop on b5 is not
    "hanging" ) 36. .. Qxb5 37. Qf8+ Bxf8 38. gxf8=Q+ Kh7 and the rest is elementary
    } "

    It may be elementry to you but to the poor lad reading this it might not be.

    Use the PGN mover, it is a wonderful feature and makes life so much easier

    Black cannot take the b5 Bishop because although f8 is covered three times
    White CAN play 37.Qf8+ because 38.gxf8=Q+ is a double check and White
    will mate in a few moves.



    And your end was crap. You cannot leave them with this.



    And then a few lines of analyse. You have to show the kill.

    So again an opportunity to use the PGN moving thing was lost.

    That's it.
    This post has eaten into my valuable Friday night drinking time so I hope
    you consider the two pint sacrifice I have just made.
  4. 26 Feb '10 23:22
    Geoff,

    the difference in the analysis between yours and the OPs is that one has natural ability and one who has "help"

    J
  5. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    27 Feb '10 00:16
    Just for the record I read through the game with interest and enjoyed it. It was good enough. If I thought it missed an interesting or important line I might want to post this. If I thought I could write a better analysis I would pick a game and produce one of my own. I would not see much merit in taking time out (and losing two pints) in order to tell someone else they were not good enough. That way the site loses interesting contributors and all that would remain is the harsh rasping voices.
  6. 27 Feb '10 00:49 / 1 edit
    Hi. Finn.

    I'm back. Advice was take it or leave it.

    The annoying thing is if the layout were better more people would read it.

    Also if you take your time to lay it out better you do do it better.

    There is a style there and he spots the rights bits but leaving in the {} is lazy.
    the RHP forum deserves better.

    Just giving him the same kick up the ass I got years ago.

    He appears to be a thick skinned lad, he can handle criticism.
    If I thought it would be ignored or I was wasting my time I would not
    have written it.

    And he did ask me for feed back and I am honest.
    I did not like the layout - it can be improved.

    But he can take it or leave it.
  7. 27 Feb '10 01:23
    Originally posted by Nowakowski

    "Enjoy the game, I look forward to David and GP's corrections and opinions "



    I thought it was funny when he didn't respond to any of my comments in the last thread.
    I understand now (help online wanted from select few).
  8. 27 Feb '10 01:25
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    Somehow, my comments ended up in the quote box.
  9. 27 Feb '10 01:43 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    Somehow, my comments ended up in the quote box.

    Paul this is the quotes box.
    Yup. He obvioulsy does not rate you at all.

    Mind you neither would I. You cannot make a post corrrectly.

    You write in the big top box Paul, not in the wee quotes box.
  10. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    27 Feb '10 01:55
    Originally posted by paulbuchmanfromfics
    I saw your comments - its not that I disagree, or won't listen to any of them.

    I didn't respond, because you didn't leave me much to say.



    I certainly noted your response - I tried to make things a bit more "personal" but ended
    up going back everytime I did. I really just want the games to read and flow while you
    play through them (hopefully on a board) and really, I'd like to just give enough to
    inspire someone to disagree.

    Thats my favorite part of annotated games - when the basta*d is wrong! Grr!
    Prove him wrong! - and then I'm into it!... Is anyone else that way?

    ...thats just what I go for - gets me all tickled.

    -GIN
  11. Standard member Nowakowski
    10. O-O
    27 Feb '10 02:01
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi. Finn.

    I'm back. Advice was take it or leave it.

    The annoying thing is if the layout were better more people would read it.

    Also if you take your time to lay it out better you do do it better.

    There is a style there and he spots the rights bits but leaving in the {} is lazy.
    the RHP forum deserves better.

    Just giving him the same kick ...[text shortened]... am honest.
    I did not like the layout - it can be improved.

    But he can take it or leave it.
    I'm going to have to take it on this one - I'll work up my next shot a bit more to
    your spec - and example. No guarantee's your shoes are hard to fill - not to mention
    shinier than mine to start with.

    Maybe I'll PM you with my next try - to get GP approval first.


    -GIN
  12. 27 Feb '10 02:59
    It's just advice and everyone learns and steals from everyone else.

    Also I think it would show the forum in a better light if players contributions
    were laid out in a more readable manner.

    It would attract new members and maybe Russ will fix the PGN thing.

    Steals?

    Of course, I am going to 'borrow' a phrase or two you used
    in some future game note. (and get paid for it)

    (The Knight is the glue...... I already have a game where that will fit
    in very nicely. Thank You).

    So there may come a time when you want to submit to a magazine.

    If you are not a GM/IM then layout and presentation is everything
    or else it goes straight in the bin.

    Look how the magazine portray their games and copy it.
  13. 27 Feb '10 17:34
    Good game and analysis. Thanks for the annotation. I got a little confused at the end when you said "it's elementary" because I had no idea what you were referring to.

    I have some questions too. At what point was this game a foregone conclusion? Was it salvageable for black? It seems like there were some opportunities for black to capitalize. You say that 36... Ng5 was a mistake, but was it fatal? I don't have the benefit of a computer, so if you have insight as to how black can get a win or draw.

    I agree it would be easier to follow with moves in bold.
  14. 27 Feb '10 17:50
    Hi allostery

    If you read my 'big boots do it my way' post you will see I've showed the mate
    that was elementary and don't feel bad about not seeing it right away.

    There was a time when we all had to be shown these elementary things.

    As to your other questions, I'll let 'Nowak' explain.
  15. 27 Feb '10 18:19
    Yes I saw that mate combination, it was nice but I certainly wouldn't call it easy.

    I can't imagine the day there's an 8-move mate on a board and I say "elementary". And, one step further, as black seeing the hanging bishop and thinking "Oh wait, if I take that bishop he'll mate in 8." I likely could've mated from that position but it wasn't obvious.

    If black had noticed his vulnerability on f8 enough to not take the bishop, then why remove a guard with Ng5?