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Can somebody explain the difference between Chessbase 9 and Fritz 9? I've seen Fritz, but not Chessbase. From what I've read, Fritz is a "playing" program and Chessbase is a "database" program, but I don't understand how they are different. Both let you play an engine, both have a database, and both let you play online, correct?

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Originally posted by ebuljan
Can somebody explain the difference between Chessbase 9 and Fritz 9? I've seen Fritz, but not Chessbase. From what I've read, Fritz is a "playing" program and Chessbase is a "database" program, but I don't understand how they are different. Both let you play an engine, both have a database, and both let you play online, correct?

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Erik
Chessbase 9 is mainly a database program and has a lot more features then fritz 9. It also cost more but chessbase 9 comes with fritz 9 in it already I belive.

At least in the past it has been this way.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Chessbase 9 is mainly a database program and has a lot more features then fritz 9. It also cost more but chessbase 9 comes with fritz 9 in it already I belive.

At least in the past it has been this way.
Maybe I should rephrase the question: Does Fritz 9 have any features that Chessbase 9 does not? Is Fritz 9 a superset of Chessbase 9?

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Originally posted by ebuljan
Maybe I should rephrase the question: Does Fritz 9 have any features that Chessbase 9 does not? Is Fritz 9 a superset of Chessbase 9?

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Like I said fritz 9 is included in chessbase 9 so no.

Fritz 9 about $50. Chessbase 9 about $150 or more I think.

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Originally posted by ebuljan
Maybe I should rephrase the question: Does Fritz 9 have any features that Chessbase 9 does not? Is Fritz 9 a superset of Chessbase 9?

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Subset. Chessbase is the superset. Right?

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Originally posted by RahimK
Like I said fritz 9 is included in chessbase 9 so no.

Fritz 9 about $50. Chessbase 9 about $150 or more I think.
ChessBase 9 Mega Package
ChessBase is a personal, stand-alone chess database that has become the standard throughout the world. Everyone uses ChessBase, from the World Champion to the amateur next door. It is the program of choice for anyone who loves the game and wants to know more about it. What you can do with ChessBase: Enter, annotate and save games, including variations, text commentary, spoken comments, embedded pictures, soundtracks and even video sequences; analyse position with GM-strength modules Fritz and Crafty (both included); retrieve games according to openings, players and tournaments; generate tournament cross tables and full graphic statistics of players or openings; merge games on-the-fly into an opening tree; generate a player‘s dossier containing all available information from the database; find the new move in a game with one mouse click; generate a comprehensive openings report with main and critical lines, plans and most important games; search for material distribution, positions and manoeuvres, search for mates and stalemates; classify games according to self defined middle and endgame criteria; print games in superb DTP quality with diagrams and multiple columns; easy and direct access to the comprehensive ChessBase online database; freely configurable board and list windows, automatic email transmission of positions, games or databases; management of team championships; intelligent search for tactical themes.


US $300!!!!!!

www.chessbase.com click on support they have more info there or click on new products and search for chessbase 9.

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Originally posted by ebuljan
Maybe I should rephrase the question: Does Fritz 9 have any features that Chessbase 9 does not? Is Fritz 9 a superset of Chessbase 9?

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Fritz 9 isn't contained in Chessbase 9 as Chessbase 9 was released about a year before Fritz 9 was.
Basically if you want to play and analyse then get Fritz, if you want to store games and analyse db data, check out openings, etc, get Chessbase.

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Originally posted by Knightlore
Fritz 9 isn't contained in Chessbase 9 as Chessbase 9 was released about a year before Fritz 9 was.
Basically if you want to play and analyse then get Fritz, if you want to store games and analyse db data, check out openings, etc, get Chessbase.
Right, It contains Fritz 5.32 and Crafty.

Does Chessbase 8 come with Fritz 8? Our club computer has Chessbase 8 and fritz is part of it, unless if they bought 2 different cd's. I don't think they did though.

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Originally posted by RahimK
Right, It contains Fritz 5.32 and Crafty.

Does Chessbase 8 come with Fritz 8? Our club computer has Chessbase 8 and fritz is part of it, unless if they bought 2 different cd's. I don't think they did though.
I think they must have bought it separately. I doubt Chessbase would be nice enough to put their current engine into their db program as otherwise people wouldn't buy both. Cynical?

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Originally posted by Knightlore
I think they must have bought it separately. I doubt Chessbase would be nice enough to put their current engine into their db program as otherwise people wouldn't buy both. Cynical?
$300 US for Chessbase 9. I think they should include both.

Fritz is like 1/6 the cost.

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Originally posted by RahimK
$300 US for Chessbase 9. I think they should include both.

Fritz is like 1/6 the cost.
Totally agree.

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$300 is for the megapackage; the full-featured CB 9 is $150. For the extra $150 you get several more issues of ChessBase magazine, and annotated games. They both come with a database of 2.7+ million games, but the mega version has 1000s of the games annotated.

Fritz 9 is a playing program, and does auto-annotations. It has limited database features. You can run Fritz 9 as an analysis engine in CB 9, but you cannot play against it there.

All of the above is also true of CB 8 and Fritz 8. They are sold separately. Fritz 5.32 came packaged in my version of CB 8, as well as Crafty and a couple other engines. I've downloaded others from the ChessBase website (free).

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
$300 is for the megapackage; the full-featured CB 9 is $150. For the extra $150 you get several more issues of ChessBase magazine, and annotated games. They both come with a database of 2.7+ million games, but the mega version has 1000s of the games annotated.

Fritz 9 is a playing program, and does auto-annotations. It has limited database features. You c ...[text shortened]... as Crafty and a couple other engines. I've downloaded others from the ChessBase website (free).
Is there any other way to go? Mega is the way 🙂

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Fritz is an engine and training program.

Chessbase is a database game editor program.

That is how the programs started, although today they both have many overlapping features.

Basically Fritz evolved to have basic game editing and database capabilities.

Chessbase has evolved to have basic playing and training functionality.

Unless you are really trying to play chess at a professional level, Fritz 9 is more than adequate in its database functions, and the training functions are really cool.

Although I dont think that chessbase has the training functions, check training, defense training, attack training, that Fritz has so they are both supersets, if you will.

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