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  1. 05 Sep '08 11:47 / 1 edit
    I am considering using this against 1.e4 this season OTB.
    Any devotees out there & what are the pros & cons please?

    1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6
  2. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 12:20 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    I am considering using this against 1.e4 this season OTB.
    Any devotees out there & what are the pros & cons please?

    1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6
    [fen]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/3q4/8/8/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1[/fen]
    I`m using this this system in blitz and RHP with not bad results. Some examples:
  3. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 12:20
  4. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 12:22
  5. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 12:27
  6. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 12:29
  7. 05 Sep '08 13:37
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    I am considering using this against 1.e4 this season OTB.
    Any devotees out there & what are the pros & cons please?

    1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6
    [fen]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/3q4/8/8/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1[/fen]
    From my experience on the white side, you very often end up with Caro Kann type positions, possibly marginally inferior for black than normal Caro lines, but I suppose also less theoretical.
  8. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    05 Sep '08 14:52
    Originally posted by Northern Lad
    From my experience on the white side, you very often end up with Caro Kann type positions, possibly marginally inferior for black than normal Caro lines, but I suppose also less theoretical.
    "You very often end up with Caro Kann type positions" maybe in system with 3...Qd6 and 4....c6, but in my opinion not in system with 3...Qd6 and 4....a6 (which I prefer).
  9. 05 Sep '08 20:18
    Ok thanks for your input.
    I don't like the thought of an inferior C-K for Black. Or any kind of C-K at all for that matter!
  10. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    06 Sep '08 06:07
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Ok thanks for your input.
    I don't like the thought of an inferior C-K for Black. Or any kind of C-K at all for that matter!
    Like they say, if Karpov can't, Caro Kann.
  11. 06 Sep '08 12:33
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Ok thanks for your input.
    I don't like the thought of an inferior C-K for Black. Or any kind of C-K at all for that matter!
    I've played the black side of this too.. Korch is right - the a6 systems don't play like the C-K. These play more like the standard 1... d5 systems. You can see that in Korch's games above. I think its fine as an OTB (or definitely blitz) surprise, but overall its strikes me as one of those just slightly inferior systems that are perfectly playable, but doesn't have anything really going for it other than people aren't usually expecting it and there's not tons of theory.

    BTW, I think the most annoying systems to play against are where white goes for an early Bf4.
  12. 06 Sep '08 12:55
    Originally posted by Erekose
    I've played the black side of this too.. Korch is right - the a6 systems don't play like the C-K. These play more like the standard 1... d5 systems. You can see that in Korch's games above. I think its fine as an OTB (or definitely blitz) surprise, but overall its strikes me as one of those just slightly inferior systems that are perfectly playable, but ...[text shortened]... , I think the most annoying systems to play against are where white goes for an early Bf4.
    I have bought this:
    http://tinyurl.com/6rlu46
    And will give it a trial run on RHP for a few games against 1400-1800 rateds.
    If the games are mostly dull, positional affairs I'll probably just go back to 1...e5
  13. 06 Sep '08 21:47
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    I am considering using this against 1.e4 this season OTB.
    Any devotees out there & what are the pros & cons please?

    1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6
    [fen]rnb1kbnr/ppp1pppp/3q4/8/8/2N5/PPPP1PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1[/fen]
    You might want to buy Ideas Behind Modern Chess Openings: Black by IM Gary Lane. In the book he gives a complete repertoire for Black, which includes the 3...Qd6 line in the Scandinavian. Against 1 d4, he recommends the Tchigorin Defense (1 d4 d5 2 c4 Nc6). Against 1 c4, he advocates 1...Nc6, with a possible transposition into the Tchigorin Defense if White then plays 2 c4.
  14. Standard member Korch
    Chess Warrior
    16 Feb '09 21:34
    Blitz game against Czech IM Martin Petr, played a few minutes ago.
  15. 16 Feb '09 21:39
    Originally posted by Korch
    I`m using this this system in blitz and RHP with not bad results.
    why not OTB also ?