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What is the best way to stop it?
eg. pawn or the knight

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Originally posted by Jamessemaj
What is the best way to stop it?
eg. pawn or the knight
I assume you mean after 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5? Best move right here is 2...Nc6, no need to defend f7 yet and you need to defend your e pawn. 3.Bc4.......here either g6 or Qe7 are perfectly acceptable. Objectively, I'm not really sure which is better, but either way you'll be better than White already.

edit: Just saw your profile and that you are new to chess.....I really hope you can read algebraic notation; if not I apologize. If you don't already know it, you should learn. It's very easy to learn and makes it so much easier to follow chess discussions.

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Originally posted by Natural Science
I assume you mean after 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5? Best move right here is 2...Nc6, no need to defend f7 yet and you need to defend your e pawn. 3.Bc4.......here either g6 or Qe7 are perfectly acceptable. Objectively, I'm not really sure which is better, but either way you'll be better than White already.

edit: Just saw your profile and that you are new ...[text shortened]... should learn. It's very easy to learn and makes it so much easier to follow chess discussions.
I usually play g6, I would assume it's better because it doesn't block in the bishop, does anyone else have any other opinions of this?

-Timmy

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Originally posted by TimmyToilet
I usually play g6, I would assume it's better because it doesn't block in the bishop, does anyone else have any other opinions of this?

-Timmy
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If you play the sicilian defense it would go like this

e4 ..c5
Qh5 ..d6 (to protect the pawn)
Bc4 g6
Qf3 Nf6

Now white is skrewed, his queen is blocking his knight from developing so he looses another move (cos he will have to move his queen again)
while black can play Bg7 on the next move with a castle to follow, all while white has moved 1 pawn 1 bishop and his queen over and over. If you don't win in 20 then your doing something wrong!😀

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I often play the Sicillian as black, so the most frequent attempts at scholars mate that I have seen start:

1. e4 c5
2. Bc4

When I see this I like

2 ... Nc6

then

3 Qf3 Ne5

is very effective, combining defence with offence, and forking the queen and bishop. To save a piece white loses the intiative and has to move his queen to an undesirable location.

Alternatively,

3 Qh5 e6

both blocks the bishop and protects c5. You can then repel the Queen and gain the initiative while developing normally.

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I did exactly that, and screwed up royally.

Game 130713

Although it's true that I made mistakes afterward, I don't think 3. ..Ne5 gives any real advantage to black.

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Originally posted by lordivan
I did exactly that, and screwed up royally.

Game 130713

Although it's true that I made mistakes afterward, I don't think 3. ..Ne5 gives any real advantage to black.
Well, it gives you the two bishops in exchange for a slight loss of time. After that it's up to you to turn the two bishops into an advantage by fianchettoing the dark square one, and not allowing White to close the position.

!~TONY~!
1...c5!

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Has anyone ever played instead of Nc6: 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5? Nf6 3. Qxe5 Be7 with Nc6 to follow, getting a bunch of tempi on the queen! Would be interesting to see if there are any games like this....

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Has anyone ever played instead of Nc6: 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5? Nf6 3. Qxe5 Be7 with Nc6 to follow, getting a bunch of tempi on the queen! Would be interesting to see if there are any games like this....
I don't think that Black would have full compensation for the pawn. Black would have the initiative for awhile, but if White played accurately I think he'd be able to nulify this initiative evntually. Might be good to try in a blitz game though.

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Knight!!!!, that's the best move😀

!~TONY~!
1...c5!

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Ahaaaa! Ch-Check it out!
Game 117566

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Ahaaaa! Ch-Check it out!
Game 117566
Well,Black won,but White's f3 and the subsequent blundering away the queen may have something to do with that.

!~TONY~!
1...c5!

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Yes, but a game none the less! 😀

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Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Yes, but a game none the less! 😀
True true LOL

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