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    04 Oct '10 17:02
    Congratulations to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen and Shredder for winning the 2010 World Computer Software Championship! ChessCentral's Steve Lopez annotates one of Shredder's games here:

    http://wp.me/pAdpb-9T
  2. e4
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    04 Oct '10 17:31
    "Steve Lopez annotates one of Shredder's games..."

    Hmmm.....

    ...and what computer did he use to check his anlaysis? 😉
  3. Standard membernimzo5
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    04 Oct '10 17:34
    Ha, well hopefully not Hector for Chess 0/8 last place.
  4. gumtree
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    04 Oct '10 17:55
    Originally posted by nimzo5
    Ha, well hopefully not Hector for Chess 0/8 last place.
    GP might like that engine. Apparently it laid a trap for Shredder. Unfortunately Shredder failed to fall for it.
  5. timed out again
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    04 Oct '10 18:43
    Originally posted by Leonidas56
    Congratulations to Stefan Meyer-Kahlen and Shredder for winning the 2010 World Computer Software Championship! ChessCentral's Steve Lopez annotates one of Shredder's games here:

    http://wp.me/pAdpb-9T
    Epic fail. You do not call winning against GNU Chess a "World Computer Software Championship". They might as well have had DivGradCurl and greenpawn34 in the line-up to increase the laughability of the tournament. 😵
  6. Standard membernimzo5
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    04 Oct '10 19:04
    Originally posted by enrico20
    [b]Epic fail. You do not call winning against GNU Chess a "World Computer Software Championship". They might as well have had DivGradCurl and greenpawn34 in the line-up to increase the laughability of the tournament. 😵[/b]
    Troll points-

    1 point for posting solely to put down accomplishment of others
    1 point for for the use of the term "epic fail"
    2 points for insulting the most popular person at RHP
    1 point for continuing vendetta vs DGC.

    5 pts. Not bad.
  7. Standard memberDer Bayer
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    04 Oct '10 21:09
    Originally posted by nimzo5
    Troll points-

    1 point for posting solely to put down accomplishment of others
    1 point for for the use of the term "epic fail"
    2 points for insulting the most popular person at RHP
    1 point for continuing vendetta vs DGC.

    5 pts. Not bad.
    He insulted the most popular person on RHP? I didn't see my name ANYWHERE in his post...
  8. e4
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    04 Oct '10 21:27
    Not an insult and certainly no offence taken.
    (I'm sure the same goes for DivGrad).

    It was a joke. (I even rec's his post).

    (most popular guy...I like that)

    Right lads no swearing or being nasty so this thread gets pulled.
    This one just has to stay put. 😏

    Can someone show the trap that was set for Shredder.
  9. Standard membernimzo5
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    04 Oct '10 21:47
    Silence!!!!

    I am the TD here!

    That is minus 5 minutes off your clock GP.
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    05 Oct '10 00:131 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Not an insult and certainly no offence taken.
    (I'm sure the same goes for DivGrad).

    It was a joke. (I even rec's his post).

    (most popular guy...I like that)

    Right lads no swearing or being nasty so this thread gets pulled.
    This one just has to stay put. 😏

    Can someone show the trap that was set for Shredder.
    Are you sure it was a joke? It def fits in with his *angry* persona.... Or am I underestimating you? Have you now lowered yourself to getting others to do your dirty work for you? 😉

    Anyway, oh yeah, the trap. It seems like a fairly elementary 2 or 3 mover tactic. Child's play for any engine. (Or is it going over my head?) Starts on move 38 for Black.

    Shredder is White, Hector is Black.

  11. e4
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    05 Oct '10 18:12
    That's not a box setting a trap.

    Black to play.



    Qg8 is the only move to stop the mate without losing heavy material.
    It is forced.
    The fact it holds the b7 pawn by tactics is just a fluke.

    These thing don't set traps. It would need them anticipating and looking
    at a bad move (like humans do). This is beyond them.
    They have no more imagination than a soap dish.

    Every good chess players knows sometimes the best move
    to play is NOT the best move.
  12. Standard membernimzo5
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    05 Oct '10 19:44
    In OTB there are often times when you feel like you "know" which move your opponent will choose in response to your move or after a set of moves. I have gotten one or two nice wins because I could look deeper into a position since I had a good feel for what branches my opponent was most likely to take.
    I have also lost a game horribly where I overlooked an obvious response.. haha so it goes I guess.
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    05 Oct '10 22:58
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    That's not a box setting a trap.

    Black to play.

    [fen]7k/pp2R1p1/5nQp/1P6/8/P4PPK/q6P/8 b - - 0 39[/fen]

    Qg8 is the only move to stop the mate without losing heavy material.
    It is forced.
    The fact it holds the b7 pawn by tactics is just a fluke.

    These thing don't set traps. It would need them anticipating and looking
    at a bad move (like hu ...[text shortened]... dish.

    Every good chess players knows sometimes the best move
    to play is NOT the best move.
    Yeah, I couldn't see a trap either, but I figured, what do I know? I guess it made a good story at any rate.

    I think Hector would have done OK except for one tiny problem... It had to eventually leave book. 😵
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