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  1. 13 Sep '06 04:49 / 1 edit
    tell me what you think of 1...Be6 in this position.
  2. 13 Sep '06 08:07
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    tell me what you think of 1...Be6 in this position.
    [fen]r1bqk1nr/1p3ppp/p1np4/2bQp1N1/4P3/2N5/PPP2PPP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 1[/fen]
    I couldn't spend that much time on it, but on first analysis....

    I think it's black's best response as 1...Nh6 looks silly after 2.Nf3.

    1....Be6
    2. Nxe6 dxe6
    3. Qxe6+ Qe7 (3...Nge7 4.Nd5 Rf8 5.f3 +/-)

    1...Be6
    2. Nxe6 Nb4!?
    3. Nxd8 Nxd5
    4. Nxf7! Kxf7
    5. Nxd5 +/-

    White seems to gain material in all variations.
  3. 13 Sep '06 10:43
    1. ... Be6
    2. Nxe6 fxe6
    3. Qxe6+ Kf8
    looks almost playable for Black.
  4. 13 Sep '06 13:05
    Is not the O'kelly 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Bb7 5.Nc3 a6
    ??

    FixarN
  5. Standard member Redmike
    Godless Commie
    13 Sep '06 13:15
    Originally posted by FixarN
    Is not the O'kelly 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 b6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Bb7 5.Nc3 a6
    ??

    FixarN
    No, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 is the O'Kelly, afaik.
  6. 14 Sep '06 01:05 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Stives
    I couldn't spend that much time on it, but on first analysis....

    I think it's black's best response as 1...Nh6 looks silly after 2.Nf3.

    1....Be6
    2. Nxe6 dxe6
    3. Qxe6+ Qe7 (3...Nge7 4.Nd5 Rf8 5.f3 +/-)

    1...Be6
    2. Nxe6 Nb4!?
    3. Nxd8 Nxd5
    4. Nxf7! Kxf7
    5. Nxd5 +/-

    White seems to gain material in all variations.
    3...Ng8e7 takes the initiative because it threatens Nd4

    and 1...Be6 2.Qxe6+ might be playable it does not lead to a forced win I don't think but white gets a huge lead in piece activity. I did not look at it very much and wouldn't play it anyways.
  7. 14 Sep '06 01:10
    Originally posted by Stives
    I couldn't spend that much time on it, but on first analysis....

    I think it's black's best response as 1...Nh6 looks silly after 2.Nf3.

    1....Be6
    2. Nxe6 dxe6
    3. Qxe6+ Qe7 (3...Nge7 4.Nd5 Rf8 5.f3 +/-)

    1...Be6
    2. Nxe6 Nb4!?
    3. Nxd8 Nxd5
    4. Nxf7! Kxf7
    5. Nxd5 +/-

    White seems to gain material in all variations.
    Qf6 looks by far the best move, secures against whites threats and creates blacks own threats.
  8. 14 Sep '06 02:23
    Originally posted by Bedlam
    Qf6 looks by far the best move, secures against whites threats and creates blacks own threats.
    I played Nh6 and then scolded myself for days upon days because right after I played it I saw ...Qf6. But you still did not answer my question about which is better. I think that ...Be6 is less forcing than ...Qf6 and gives white more chances to think that he is out of the fire when the fire is only getting bigger and hotter.
  9. 14 Sep '06 11:19
    Your question was..."Tell me what you think of Be6 in the position", not which is the best move for black....therefore Qf6 wasn't directly considered, as it wasn't part of your question!
  10. Subscriber Marinkatomb
    wotagr8game
    14 Sep '06 11:26
    Originally posted by Stives
    1...Be6
    2. Nxe6 Nb4!?
    3. Nxd8 Nxd5
    4. Nxf7! Kxf7
    5. Nxd5 +/-

    White seems to gain material in all variations.
    ..Be6
    Nxe6 ..Nb4?
    Qxc5 dxc5
    Nxd8