1. e4 c5 2. f4?! I don't think is played much anymore because of 2...d5!, so white now normally plays 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 and then 3. f4 to stop d5 first. I have a book on the Grand Prix Attack at my house, but I am at school right now. I can repost on Friday afternoon and get some lines in here to help you out.
Yes tony is right just play 2 ...d5 the "Tal Gambit" againt 2 f4... It gives black good chances for the pawn. Probably to good.
there's a same thing like this in the kings gambit where the GM,s use to play 2. F4 the now prefer to play nc3 first to prevent the emediate 2...D5!
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Originally posted by !~TONY~!I've been using this anti-Sicilian opening (w/ success), and feel it forces original play.
1. e4 c5 2. f4?! I don't think is played much anymore because of 2...d5!, so white now normally plays 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 and then 3. f4 to stop d5 first. I have a book on the Grand Prix Attack at my house, but I am at school right now. I can ...[text shortened]... t on Friday afternoon and get some lines in here to help you out.
So far encountered only one game with 2...d5 and it is effective. (still in progress, well past opening). Of the games I have found (2...d5) 3.e4xd5, is the norm, but I played 3.e5
When d5 is not played, 3.Bc4 , sometimes even sacking blacks king.
Better players handle this opening well...Players relying on book have problems.
2.Nc3 would stop d5...but gives black extra development.
I suppose 1...Nf6 would work, forcing white to protect the e pawn-but for 2.e5
Originally posted by TestriderDo you believe it's not sicilian unless black leads with 1....e2?
Please stay with the sicilian defence.
consider these examples:
An Introduction to the Open Sicilian
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Scheveningen Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Dragon Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Najdorf Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
I stopped the variations at 4....Nf6
It looks sicilian to me.
Ever heard of transposition ?
Originally posted by xsIt could transpose of course but it could become an Alekhine's Defense depending on white's next move.
Do you believe it's not sicilian unless black leads with 1....e2?
consider these examples:
An Introduction to the Open Sicilian
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Scheveningen Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Dragon Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
Najdorf Variation
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
I sto ...[text shortened]... ped the variations at 4....Nf6
It looks sicilian to me.
Ever heard of transposition ?
Originally posted by xsSacking the King? Isn't that checkmate?
I've been using this anti-Sicilian opening (w/ success), and feel it forces original play.
So far encountered only one game with 2...d5 and it is effective. (still in progress, well past opening). Of the games I have found (2...d5) 3.e4xd5, is the norm, but I played 3.e5
When d5 is not played, 3.Bc4 , sometimes even sacking blacks king.
Better players ...[text shortened]... a development.
I suppose 1...Nf6 would work, forcing white to protect the e pawn-but for 2.e5
Originally posted by xsThe first principle of the Grand Prix attack is to develop rapidly.I feel (subject to change) that Nc3 is a defensive move, that slows the attack.
2.Nc3 would stop d5...but gives black extra development.
Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Explain this statement further....I don't really get what you are trying to say.
By "gives black extra developement" I meant black gets a move after Nc3 that he/she would not otherwise have had.
Maybe I should have said black gets time or white loses tempo?
perhaps I should not have posted at all.
Originally posted by xsWell if you want to attack you will have to develope your pieces first and c3 just is the perfect place for the knight. And if you put it there on move 2 you will be preventing black for playing his strongest defence.
The first principle of the Grand Prix attack is to develop rapidly.I feel (subject to change) that Nc3 is a defensive move, that slows the attack.
By "gives black extra developement" I meant black gets a move after Nc3 that he/she would not otherwise have had.
Maybe I should have said black gets time or white loses tempo?
perhaps I should not have posted at all.
A real waste of tempo would be to play e5 after e4 c5 f4 d5 since black will now take over white's role and be the first to develope a piece. Normaly when a move like e5 is played in these openings it will chase away a knight on f6 and not lose a tempo.