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  1. 25 Jan '17 10:18
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    [Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 07-Short"]
    [Date "2017.01.08"]
    [Origin "Great Britain"]
    [White "Stockfish 8 Chess Program"]
    [White-Elo "3390+"]
    [Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
    [Black-Elo "?"]
    [Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
    [Time "180 Seconds Each Per Move"]
    [Result "0-1"]

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Bd3 h6 4. Nf3 a6 5. O-O g6 6. Nbd2 b6 7. c3 Bg7 8. Re1
    Bb7 9. Nc4 Ne7 10. Bf4 g5 11. Bg3 Ng6 12. d5 e5 13. Nfd2 Nd7 14. Ne3 Bc8
    15. f3 h5 16. Bf2 Nf6 17. Bc2 Nf4 18. Ba4+ Kf8 19. Bc6 Rb8 20. Rf1 Bh6 21.
    Qc2 g4 22. Rae1 Bg5 23. Bg3 h4 24. Bxf4 Bxf4 25. fxg4 Nxg4 26. Nxg4 Bxg4
    27. Kh1 Qg5 28. Nf3 Qg6 29. Ng1 Ke7 30. Nh3 Bg3 31. Nf2 Bh5 32. Re3 Bf4 33.
    Ree1 Qh6 34. Qd3 Rbg8 35. Qh3 Bd2 36. Rb1 Qg5 37. Ba4 Be2 38. Rg1 Qf4 39.
    Qd7+ Kf8 40. Qc8+ Kg7 41. Qf5 Qxf5 42. exf5 Kf8 43. h3 Rg3 44. Bd1 Bc4 45.
    Bb3 Bxb3 46. axb3 Be3 47. Ne4 Bxg1 48. Nxg3 hxg3 49. Kxg1 Ke7 50. f6+ Kxf6
    51. Rf1+ Ke7 52. Rf3 Rg8 53. Rf5 Rg6 54. b4 f6 55. Rh5 Kf7 56. Rh8 Rg8 57.
    Rh4 b5 58. Kf1 f5 59. Rh7+ Rg7 60. Rh8 f4 61. Rh6 Kg8 62. Rh5 Rh7 63. Rg5+
    Kf7 64. Ke2 Kf6 65. Rg8 Kf5 66. Kf3 e4+ 67. Ke2 Re7 68. Rc8 e3 69. b3 Ke4
    70. Rf8 Re5 71. h4 Rxd5 72. Re8+ Re5 73. Rc8 c5 74. bxc5 dxc5 75. b4 cxb4
    76. cxb4 Rh5 77. Re8+ Kd4 78. Rd8+ Kc4 79. Rd1 Rxh4 80. Rb1 Kc3 81. Rd1
    Kxb4 82. Rb1+ Kc3 83. Rc1+ Kb3 84. Kf3 Kb2 85. Re1 b4 86. Re2+ Kc3 87. Re1
    b3 88. Rc1+ Kd2 89. Rc6 b2 90. Rb6 Kc1 91. Rc6+ Kb1 92. Rb6 Rh1 93. Rc6
    Rf1+ 94. Ke2 Rf2+ 95. Kd3 Rd2+ 96. Ke4 e2 97. Kf5 e1=Q 98. Kf6 Rd5 99. Re6
    Qb4 100. Kf7 Kc1 101. Rxa6 b1=Q 102. Rc6+ Kd2 103. Rc2+ Qxc2 104. Kf6 Qf5+
    105. Kg7 Qbf8# 0-1



    [Event "The A.R.B Chess System-Game 07-Analysis"]
    [Date "2017.01.08"]
    [Origin "Great Britain"]
    [White "Stockfish 8 Chess Program"]
    [White-Elo "3390+"]
    [Black "Anthony.R.Brown"]
    [Black-Elo "?"]
    [Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
    [Time "180 Seconds Each Per Move"]
    [Result "0-1"]

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3.
    Bd3 h6 {Prevents intrusion on g5} 4. Nf3 a6 {Secures b5} 5. O-O g6 6. Nbd2 b6
    7. c3 Bg7 8. Re1 Bb7 {Black is behind in development.} 9. Nc4 Ne7 10. Bf4 g5
    11. Bg3 Ng6 12. d5 e5 13. Nfd2 Nd7 14. Ne3 Bc8 15. f3 h5 16. Bf2 Nf6 17. Bc2 {
    The bishop aims for Bd3-c2-a4-c6} Nf4 18. Ba4+ Kf8 19. Bc6 {
    'the bishop is the bishop!'} (19. Bc2 $5 $14) 19... Rb8 $11 20. Rf1 Bh6 21. Qc2
    g4 22. Rae1 Bg5 23. Bg3 h4 24. Bxf4 Bxf4 25. fxg4 Nxg4 26. Nxg4 Bxg4 27. Kh1 (
    27. Nf3 $5 $11) 27... Qg5 $15 28. Nf3 Qg6 29. Ng1 (29. Qd3 $5 $11 {
    is worth consideration}) 29... Ke7 $15 30. Nh3 Bg3 31. Nf2 (31. Re3 $5 {
    should not be overlooked} Rbg8 32. Bb7 $15) 31... Bh5 $17 32. Re3 Bf4 33. Ree1
    Qh6 34. Qd3 Rbg8 35. Qh3 Bd2 36. Rb1 Qg5 37. Ba4 Be2 38. Rg1 Qf4 39. Qd7+ Kf8
    40. Qc8+ Kg7 41. Qf5 Qxf5 42. exf5 Kf8 43. h3 Rg3 44. Bd1 Bc4 45. Bb3 Bxb3 46.
    axb3 Be3 47. Ne4 Bxg1 48. Nxg3 hxg3 49. Kxg1 Ke7 50. f6+ (50. Re1 Rh5 $19)
    50... Kxf6 51. Rf1+ Ke7 52. Rf3 Rg8 53. Rf5 Rg6 54. b4 (54. Rh5 Kf6 55. Rh4 b5
    $19) 54... f6 55. Rh5 Kf7 56. Rh8 Rg8 57. Rh4 $2 (57. Rh7+ $142 Rg7 58. Rh6 $19
    ) 57... b5 58. Kf1 f5 59. Rh7+ Rg7 60. Rh8 f4 61. Rh6 Kg8 62. Rh5 Rh7 63. Rg5+
    Kf7 64. Ke2 Kf6 65. Rg8 Kf5 66. Kf3 e4+ 67. Ke2 Re7 {Black plans e3} 68. Rc8 (
    68. Rf8+ {cannot undo what has already been done} Ke5 $19) 68... e3 69. b3 Ke4
    70. Rf8 Re5 71. h4 (71. c4 {doesn't get the cat off the tree} Rf5 72. Rg8 Kd4
    $19) 71... Rxd5 72. Re8+ Re5 73. Rc8 (73. Rh8 $19 {there is nothing better in the position})
    73... c5 74. bxc5 dxc5 75. b4 (75. c4 {hoping against hope} b4 76. Rh8 $19) 75... cxb4
    76. cxb4 Rh5 77. Re8+ Kd4 78. Rd8+ Kc4 79. Rd1 Rxh4 80. Rb1 Kc3 81. Rd1 Kxb4 82. Rb1+ Kc3
    83. Rc1+ Kb3 (83... Kb2 $142 84. Rd1 b4 85. Rd6 $19) 84. Kf3 Kb2 85. Re1 b4 86. Re2+ Kc3
    87. Re1 (87. Ra2 {does not help much} Rh1 88. Kxf4 b3 89. Re2 b2 90. Rxe3+ Kc4 91. Re4+ Kc5
    92. Re5+ Kd6 93. Re4 Rf1+ 94. Kxg3 b1=Q 95. Rh4 Qe1+ 96. Kh3 Rh1+ 97. Kg4 Rxh4+ 98. Kf3 Qe4+
    99. Kf2 Rf4+ 100. Kg3 Qe3+ 101. Kh2 Rh4 87... b3 88. Rc1+ Kd2 89. Rc6 b2 90. Rb6 Kc1
    91. Rc6+ Kb1 92. Rb6 Rh1 93. Rc6 (93. Ke2 {hardly improves anything} Rg1 94. Kf3 Rf1+ 95. Ke2
    Rf2+ 96. Kd3 Rd2+ 97. Ke4 e2 98. Ke5 e1=Q+ 99. Kf6 Rd5 100. Re6 Qa5 101. Kg7
    Ka1 102. Rf6 b1=Q 103. Rxf4 Rd7+ 104. Rf7 Qg5+ 105. Kh8 Rd8+ 106. Rf8 Rxf8
    93... Rf1+ 94. Ke2 Rf2+ 95. Kd3 Rd2+ 96. Ke4 e2 97. Kf5 (97. Ke5 {
    is not the saving move} e1=Q+ 98. Kf6 Rxg2 99. Rxa6 Re2 100. Kf7 g2 101. Rd6
    g1=Q 102. Rd7 Qh4 103. Rd1+ Qxd1 104. Kg8 Qg1+ 105. Kf7 Qe7 97... e1=Q 98.
    Kf6 (98. Rc5 {doesn't improve anything} Rxg2 99. Rc6 Re2 100. Rxa6 g2 101. Rg6
    g1=Q 102. Rxg1 Qxg1 103. Kf6 f3 104. Kf7 f2 105. Kf8 f1=Q 98... Rd5 99. Re6
    Qb4 100. Kf7 (100. Re8 {does not improve anything} Qd6+ 101. Re6 Qf8+ 102. Kg6
    Qf5+ 103. Kg7 Rd7+ 104. Re7 Rxe7+ 105. Kh8 Qf8 100... Kc1 101. Rxa6 (101.
    Rc6+ {does not win a prize} Kd2 102. Rxa6 b1=Q 103. Ra2+ Qxa2 104. Ke6 Qb7 105.
    Kf6 Qaa6 101... b1=Q 102. Rc6+ Kd2 103. Rc2+ (103. Ke8 {
    does not solve anything} Q1e4+ 104. Kf7 Rd7+ 105. Kg8 Qh7 103... Qxc2 104.
    Kf6 (104. Kg7 {does not save the day} Qe7+ 105. Kh8 Rd8 104... Qf5+ 105. Kg7
    Qbf8# 0-1
  2. 25 Jan '17 12:24
    This is the above game PGN'd I have not changed or added any notes.

  3. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    25 Jan '17 18:15
    Been a while since we've had the A.R.B guy post here, welcome back mister A.R.B

    Had any good OTB successes lately?
  4. 26 Jan '17 11:28
    You made a mistake with your .pgn greenpawn34 your game only goes up to moves (79) ?
  5. 26 Jan '17 11:32 / 8 edits
  6. 26 Jan '17 18:57
    Stockfish Versions 5/6/7/8 Playing White (3rd Move) Preference v The A.R.B Chess System.

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} (3. ?).. h6

    Stockfish 5 (3. Nf3 ...)

    Stockfish 6 (3. c4 ...)

    Stockfish 7 (3. Bd3 ...)

    Stockfish 8 (3. Bd3 ...)

    3. Bd3 {(Bf1-d3 d6-d5 e4xd5 e6xd5 Ng1-f3 Bf8-d6 O-O Ng8-e7
    Rf1-e1 O-O Nf3-h4 Ne7-g6 Nh4-f5 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Nb8-d7
    Bc1-e3 Nd7-f6 c2-c3 Rf8-e8 Nb1-d2 a7-a5 Qd1-c2 Ng6-h4
    Bf5-h3 h7-h6 g2-g3 Nh4-g6 a2-a4 b7-b6 Nd2-f3 c7-c5
    b2-b3 Nf6-e4 Ra1-d1 c5-c4 b3xc4 d5xc4 d4-d5) +0.33}
  7. Standard member congruent
    Chess Player
    26 Jan '17 20:33 / 1 edit
    That doesn't look like the full Stockfish, looks like a handicapped version. I know because I can clobber level 6 but level 7 and 8 clobber me. Level 6 and below are weak because they make stupid moves that a human wouldn't make.
  8. 27 Jan '17 00:52 / 2 edits
    Hi DougBlanch.

    I intended to stop at move 79. If you do a 'reply and quote' you can
    see I added a note at move 79.

    "No need to go any further this is clear win. Black mated White on move 105"

    Somehow or other this got all messed up. It was quite a difficult one to de-bug.
    But I should have checked it.

    Hi congruent,

    Got any examples of a stupid computer mistake.
  9. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    27 Jan '17 11:38
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi DougBlanch.

    I intended to stop at move 79. If you do a 'reply and quote' you can
    see I added a note at move 79.

    "No need to go any further this is clear win. Black mated White on move 105"

    Somehow or other this got all messed up. It was quite a difficult one to de-bug.
    But I should have checked it.

    Hi congruent,

    Got any examples of a stupid computer mistake.
    Anyone know what kind of comp Stockfish was running on? I mean, if it was a 1999 cell phone........
  10. Standard member congruent
    Chess Player
    28 Jan '17 19:47
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Hi DougBlanch.

    I intended to stop at move 79. If you do a 'reply and quote' you can
    see I added a note at move 79.

    "No need to go any further this is clear win. Black mated White on move 105"

    Somehow or other this got all messed up. It was quite a difficult one to de-bug.
    But I should have checked it.

    Hi congruent,

    Got any examples of a stupid computer mistake.
    Hi Greenpawn,

    Look at this game. The computer made mistakes that a human of 1900-2000 (its playing strength) would not have made. I missed a killer move Nd4 at some point.

  11. 29 Jan '17 10:52
    Updated from my Post above...

    (Regarding the Version of Stockfish 8 ? it was the Full Version on a High end PC playing at 180 Seconds each per move as shown in the .pgn)
    Check it's Engine output log below and see if it Matches your Smartphone Version or should I say Not! so Smart!

    Stockfish Versions 5/6/7/8 Playing White (3rd Move) Preference v The A.R.B Chess System.

    Notice! The Computer hardware used for the moves below was much faster and efficient
    than when the Original Engines where made, so expect more reliable Results
    The idea behind the examples is to show the Evolution of the Stockfish Engine, using
    different updated Versions and how they look at the positions.

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} (3. ?).. (h6 The A.R.B.C.S next move)

    Stockfish 5 (3. Nf3 ...)

    Stockfish 6 (3. c4 ...)

    Stockfish 7 (3. Bd3 ...)

    Stockfish 8 (3. Bd3 ...)

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Bd3 {(Bf1-d3 d6-d5 e4xd5 e6xd5 Ng1-f3 Bf8-d6 O-O
    Ng8-e7 Rf1-e1 O-O Nf3-h4 Ne7-g6 Nh4-f5 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Nb8-d7 Bc1-e3 Nd7-f6
    c2-c3 Rf8-e8 Nb1-d2 a7-a5 Qd1-c2 Ng6-h4 Bf5-h3 h7-h6 g2-g3 Nh4-g6 a2-a4
    b7-b6 Nd2-f3 c7-c5 b2-b3 Nf6-e4 Ra1-d1 c5-c4 b3xc4 d5xc4 d4-d5) +0.33}


    Stockfish Versions 5/6/7/8 Playing White (4th Move) Preference v The A.R.B Chess System.

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Bd3 h6 (4. ?).. (a6 The A.R.B.C.S next move)

    Stockfish 5 (4. Nf3 ...)

    Stockfish 6 (4. Nf3 ...)

    Stockfish 7 (4. Nf3 ...)

    Stockfish 8 (4. Nf3 ...)

    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Bd3 h6 4. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3 Nb8-d7 O-O e6-e5 c2-c4 Ng8-e7
    Nb1-c3 Ne7-g6 Bd3-e2 Bf8-e7 Qd1-c2 O-O Rf1-d1 b7-b6 g2-g3 Bc8-b7 Bc1-e3
    Rf8-e8 Ra1-c1 a7-a5 d4-d5 Nd7-c5 h2-h4 Bb7-c8 Nf3-e1 Ng6-f8 Be3xc5 b6xc5
    b2-b3 Nf8-d7 Ne1-g2 Nd7-f6 Ng2-e3) +0.65}
  12. Standard member congruent
    Chess Player
    29 Jan '17 16:56
    That (original post) doesn't look like "Stockfish 8 on a high end pc", looks like a 1800-1900 player who might have had a bit of bitter to drink.

    Stockfish is "weak enough" to beat Nakamura. Nakamura is stronger than 99.9% of human chess players .... what does that tell us?

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=84631
  13. 29 Jan '17 17:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by congruent
    That (original post) doesn't look like "Stockfish 8 on a high end pc", looks like a 1800-1900 player who might have had a bit of bitter to drink.

    Stockfish is "weak enough" to beat Nakamura. Nakamura is stronger than 99.9% of human chess players .... what does that tell us?

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=84631
    Nakamura should have used A.R.B?
  14. 29 Jan '17 19:46
    Originally posted by congruent
    That (original post) doesn't look like "Stockfish 8 on a high end pc", looks like a 1800-1900 player who might have had a bit of bitter to drink.

    Stockfish is "weak enough" to beat Nakamura. Nakamura is stronger than 99.9% of human chess players .... what does that tell us?

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?tid=84631
    Sounds like you are the Drunk one congruent

    If you think the moves shown above/below are from a 1800-1900 player then why don't you back that up by showing us the moves your 1900 + player/Engine plays at 180 Seconds ?

    And Yes! Nakamura is stronger than 99.9% of human chess players (Playing Chess in a Normal Human way!)

    Stockfish Versions 5/6/7/8 Playing White (3rd Move) Preference v The A.R.B Chess System.
    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} (3. ?).. (h6 The A.R.B.C.S next move)

    Stockfish Versions 5/6/7/8 Playing White (4th Move) Preference v The A.R.B Chess System.
    1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 {last book move} 3. Bd3 h6 (4. ?).. (a6 The A.R.B.C.S next move)
  15. 29 Jan '17 19:51
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Nakamura should have used A.R.B?
    Nakamura would Not! know how to play The A.R.B Chess System...it has taken (30)+ Years to get to where it is at! Plus he would not have the Patience to play Six Pawns in the Opening before any Main Pieces are played...which is what the System is based on!