Originally posted by gambit3After chatting with the tournament director he told me that one of the questions on the test to become a TD is 'what do you do if two people dispute the result of their game'?
It is more hard for me to understand how both players had recorded a differct game then the game they played. Could they not both be disqualified for how they recorded the game?
Since we are on the subject of this let me tell you another story that my friend and chess promoter, Bob Ciaffone, related to me:
"I was acting as one of the assistant TDs for the K-12 Championships and we had told the kids that if they had a problem to raise their hand in the air. After about 15 minutes several hands went up in the air. I went over to one of the games and the two players were arguing about who's move it was! So I looked down at the board and BOTH KINGS WERE IN CHECKMATE!! I then asked what the last move had been and the players disagreed on that, the problem being that both players had moved at the same time... one of them making a move and the other thinking it was his move. Since they were not keeping scoresheets there was no way to tell who had checkmated who first."
I regret that I didn't ask Bob how he remedied the situation. I suspect he had them start the game all over. 😕
Here is a good one for if you have some chess enemy that you want revenge on.
Firstly, turn up in a tournament in which they are playing, find their board and opponant and introduce yourself, giving the name of your enemy. Once they arrive to start the game they will dispute you sitting at their seat but you then turn to the opponant and say something like "you are supposed to be playing me, arent you?" to which they will almost certainly reply in the affirmative. This will then mean your enemy will assume he has made a mistake and head back to look at the pairings to find who his real opponant is, while you start the game on your board.
After a couple of moves, make some sort of excuse such as you are going to the toilet or to get a drink and then leave. The enemy will come back, convinced that he is right but your opponant will now insist that you have started playing and that he go away.
In the meantime you can leg it, safe in the knowledge that it will take him quite some time to find an arbiter and get the game restarted.
N.B. If your enemy knows you well, it might pay you to find a willing subordinate for this task so that you dont get busted too early.
I had a bizarre situation in the 1990 Amateur Teams East tourney.
My opponent has just dropped either a pawn or the exchange (can't remember which). During his next move, I stepped away from the board for a bathroom break. When I returned, I mistakenly believed it was my move. After a few minutes examining the board, I played a move at which point my opponent politely informed me it was not my move. Very embarrassing but not a huge deal. But the plot thickens...
My opponent then "sacs" a rook. Puzzled, play a move to accept the sac and he tells me that, due to the touch-move rule, I have to move the piece I had touched earlier. Sadly, I believed him (I was young and gullible) and actually moved that previously touched piece. He then sac'd his rook again. When I tried to take it the second time he claimed touch-move forced me to move the piece I had touched first when trying to make my previous move.
At this point, I called BS. When he refused to back down I had a TD step in and she explained how wrong he was. My favorite part was when he actually told the TD, quite loudly mind you, "I'm a TD myself and you're completely wrong on this!". She took that about as well as you'd expect.
Once the exchange with the TD was adjudicated in my favor, he offered me his hand over the board. I was careful to ask him if he was resigning the game before actually accepting it. Somewhat to his credit, I could tell he was sincerely sorry. I think he actually believed what he was spewing.
What some people will do to win a chess game.
Originally posted by robscullionWhen I was a kid I went down to the local chess club and there was this old guy there who looked like a bum in a wrinkled suit. He swaggered when he walked and smoked a cigar whiile playing, blowing the smoke in your eyes. But the most thing I remember him for was that when he moved a piece he would always set it down so that it was about 1/3 on another square. And he had a favorite trick, he would move one of his rooks half way between two squares attacking your queen. If you took it he would say it's not on that square and move it over. But if you assumed it wasn't on that square (because it would be hanging) then on his next move he would take your queen off!
I had a bizarre situation in the 1990 Amateur Teams East tourney.
What some people will do to win a chess game.
Nobody liked playing him.
Originally posted by ArrakisI'm assuming you have enough years under your belt that you know how to handle people like that now. It's really simple. If it's skittles, you simply decline to play him. And if he asks why, you tell him the brutal truth. If it's a rated game, then when he places a piece exactly between two squares and fails to adjust the piece, you simply stop the clock and politely ask him to adjust his piece. If he refuses, you summon the TD to "help" him accomplish this very difficult task. And if he constantly places pieces 1/3 off-center, you can also stop the clock and complain to the TD, citing annoying behavior as the reason.
And he had a favorite trick, he would move one of his rooks half way between two squares attacking your queen. If you took it he would say it's not on that square and move it over. But if you assumed it wasn't on that square (because it would be hanging) then on his next move he would take your queen off!
Nobody liked playing him.
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i recall one game where i was being outplayed and clearly losing, though we still had all the heavy pieces still on board. there was no hope, however i saw that if i lost a few pawns and chucked my heavy pieces, then there would be a stalemate. my opponet did take my pawns, and now I had to shed two rooks before making my Qxp stalemate. people normally think about perpetual checks with the queen, however after I sac-ed my two rooks against his king side, I played Qxp forcing KxQ stalemate. now i can easily imagine my oppenent not realizing it was a stalemate, and thinking that I was resigning when I played Qxp.
Originally posted by ArrakisIn my club, perhaps in every club in Sweden, no one is allowed to smoke at the board, nor in the localities at all.
When I was a kid I went down to the local chess club and there was this old guy there who looked like a bum in a wrinkled suit. He swaggered when he walked and smoked a cigar whiile playing, blowing the smoke in your eyes. But the most thing I remember him for was that when he moved a piece he would always set it down so that it was about 1/3 on anoth ...[text shortened]... d be hanging) then on his next move he would take your queen off!
Nobody liked playing him.
What's the rules in the rest of the world in this matters?
Originally posted by FabianFnasHere in the USA, smoking has pretty much been banned in most public venues. Smokers typically now have to go outside the building to get their nicotine fix.
In my club, perhaps in every club in Sweden, no one is allowed to smoke at the board, nor in the localities at all.
What's the rules in the rest of the world in this matters?
Originally posted by Sam The ShamThis takes the cake.
Guy was playing in a week-end tournament that was a two hour drive from where he lived. Sunday afternoon he was anxious to get headed home, but was playing a jerk that didn't want to acknowledge he had a lost game and kept offering him a draw, knowing the guy had a looooong drive home. Finally they hit the first time control and the jerk sealed his mov ...[text shortened]... w next week, the guy started his clock and told TD, who opened the sealed move: "resign".
Here is a real life experience of mine. There is a type of tournament we play in my league called lightning chess, it is where a buzzer sounds every 10 seconds and you HAVE to move on that buzzer (it is a little slow for a blitz player in the opening and endgame but absolutely crazy in the middlegame where you would normally want to use most of your time).
Anyway, I ended up playing a guy I knew was a bit of a troublemaker (he had gone beserk at someone in my club in a league match earlier that year for claiming a win on time and demanded he call the game a draw or he was not a man) so I was expecting some sort of shenanigans before the game started. The good part was I had a nice winning position, a piece up and then moved one of my pawns up to fork a couple more of his pieces to which he played a strange move, capturing the pawn with a knight in the style of an en passent and claiming that he had been playing the game 40 years and he should know the rules.
Since there arent really any arbiters in the lightning tournaments and I was already winning, I decided to let him get away with it but it makes an amusing tale nevertheless.
On a side note, I won the game.
Originally posted by laferri2The official rules say that the game should be paired as a draw and resumed later.
I'm very glad that I decided to pass on the MI Open this year and resurface at the Amateur or Action instead.
I wonder why Jeff didn't just declare it a draw altogether. I think it would have been acceptable since neither had decent scoresheets.
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