1. e4
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    20 Mar '11 19:35
    I see the lads have been found guilty an apeal pendning.

    The moves were sent to a mobile by text using a code.

    06 01 52 54 37, 06 01 57 55 99, 06 02 71 63 84, 06 02 67 65 43

    Is the Latvian Gambit!

    06 always started the message, then came the move number.
    Then the from and too square in International Correspondence Notation.
    The last two numbers are random.

    The example given:

    06 01 52 54 37, (1.e4)
    06 01 57 55 99, (1.e5)
    06 02 71 63 84, (2.Nf3)
    06 02 67 65 43 (2.f5)

    Is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf2 f5 The Latvian Gambit.


    http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/french-cheating-disciplinary-committee-says-guilty/
  2. Jerusalem
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    20 Mar '11 20:42
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I see the lads have been found guilty an apeal pendning.

    The moves were sent to a mobile by text using a code....

    http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/french-cheating-disciplinary-committee-says-guilty/
    WOW! 😲
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    20 Mar '11 21:54
    So, who gets Feller's medal?
  4. e4
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    20 Mar '11 23:542 edits
    Give it to the guy or woman who cracked the code.

    Can you think of another way to send moves via text.

    How abiout designate each file a country.

    A1/A8 - America
    B1/ B8 - Belgium
    C1/C8 - Canada
    D1/D8- Denmanrk
    E1/E8- England
    F1/F8 - France
    G1/G8 - Germany
    H1/H8 - Holland

    Then the days of the week Sunday=1 Monday = 2etc.
    (no day mentioned is 8)

    I will be in Germany next week, then on Friday I will be in France.

    g8-f6.
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    21 Mar '11 00:12
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Give it to the guy or woman who cracked the code.

    Can you think of another way to send moves via text.

    How abiout designate each file a country.

    A1/A8 - America
    B1/ B8 - Belgium
    C1/C8 - Canada
    D1/D8- Denmanrk
    E1/E8- England
    F1/F8 - France
    G1/G8 - Germany
    H1/H8 - Holland

    Then the days of the week Sunday=1 Monday = 2etc.
    (no day mentioned is 8)

    I will be in Germany next week, then on Friday I will be in France.

    g8-f6.
    There you go again slandering France !!
    I won't let you smear my glorious country any more!
    You have to learn that a frenchman is genetically unable to cheat, lie or even do any evil.
    Didn't you get the lesson when france crushed scotland in rugby last february ?
    I'll have ask you to make amends myself, over a game of chess !

    And also you solved the 5...e6-h3# problem and not me, and this is not acceptable !
    The only reasonable explanation is that you have CHEATED ! No surprise since you're a scot.
  6. Standard memberhedonist
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    21 Mar '11 00:17
    Originally posted by shorbock
    No surprise since you're a scot.
    but hes not. hes one of them white settlers.
  7. e4
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    21 Mar '11 00:50
    Hi Shorbuck.

    Big Robbie is going to go ape when he sees that post.
    (he lost a small fortune backing Scotland to beat France. about 15p).

    I'll play you, but first send me by post your mobile phone. 🙂

    (I hope SG does not mind me posting the solution, but it's been a while).

    The solution to the 5...e6-h3 mate (no capture on h3)

  8. Subscriberroma45
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    21 Mar '11 10:10
    Originally posted by shorbock
    There you go again slandering France !!
    I won't let you smear my glorious country any more!
    You have to learn that a frenchman is genetically unable to cheat, lie or even do any evil.
    Didn't you get the lesson when france crushed scotland in rugby last february ?
    I'll have ask you to make amends myself, over a game of chess !

    And also you solved the ...[text shortened]...
    The only reasonable explanation is that you have CHEATED ! No surprise since you're a scot.
    french never cheat? 2 words to that lie. tierry henry
  9. Donationketchuplover
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    21 Mar '11 22:45
    They probably used a system they thought was quickest. Every secound counts!
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    22 Mar '11 13:22
    There will be cheats in any country.
    I say well done to the French authorities for investigating and taking action.
  11. SubscriberPaul Leggett
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    22 Mar '11 21:09
    Originally posted by shorbock
    There you go again slandering France !!
    I won't let you smear my glorious country any more!
    You have to learn that a frenchman is genetically unable to cheat, lie or even do any evil.
    Didn't you get the lesson when france crushed scotland in rugby last february ?
    I'll have ask you to make amends myself, over a game of chess !

    And also you solved the ...[text shortened]...
    The only reasonable explanation is that you have CHEATED ! No surprise since you're a scot.
    France beat Scotland in rugby??

    I'm starting to take that whole Mayan 2012 stuff much more seriously. It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from there.
  12. Standard memberThabtos
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    23 Mar '11 02:08
    France should be ashamed. They have not yet evolved to the level of Danailov hand-signal technology that is the hallmark of top flight chess.
  13. Standard memberRevRSleeker
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    23 Mar '11 04:301 edit
    Originally posted by Thabtos
    France should be ashamed. They have not yet evolved to the level of Danailov hand-signal technology that is the hallmark of top flight chess.
    Lol, I still can't resist watching Danailov \ Topalov 'hand signalling' clips whenever the issue is raised...over and over 🙂 I've never quite understood quite why someone as dismissive as Danailov didn't sue over such allegations IF there was nothing to it. He'd have made a small fortune given the numbers objecting. Here's a short version to marvel over 😛
    YouTube
  14. Kalispell, MT
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    24 Mar '11 19:026 edits
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    Give it to the guy or woman who cracked the code.

    Can you think of another way to send moves via text.

    How abiout designate each file a country.

    A1/A8 - America
    B1/ B8 - Belgium
    C1/C8 - Canada
    D1/D8- Denmanrk
    E1/E8- England
    F1/F8 - France
    G1/G8 - Germany
    H1/H8 - Holland

    Then the days of the week Sunday=1 Monday = 2etc.
    (no day mentioned is 8)

    I will be in Germany next week, then on Friday I will be in France.

    g8-f6.
    Encrypting the perfect square.


    First, an important point here is that we know the total message length is 64. So any kind of
    block cypher can be used and salted - although this is not the route that we will be taking
    here…for simplicities sake.

    64 bits?

    26 characters in the english alphabet.
    52 characters when including capitals and lower case characters.

    now the question becomes- How do we add 12 more characters? Obviously there is a slough
    of answers here, I personally enjoy symbols. Very often "salting" is done using symbols…this
    creates an illusion which quite often would send a code breaker in the wrong direction.

    !@#$%^&*(),. A total of twelve symbols here - one for each numeral character on
    the qwertic keyboard and the two most common punctuations.

    abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!@#$%^&*(),.

    and now we have an alphabet which can describe each square. On to the fun stuff.
    At this point, we could convert algebraic notation to our above board notation.
    However that would be very easy to break now wouldn't it? (64 character straight alphabet?
    come on now… we can do so much better!)

    With a '64 bit system we can easily encrypt it.

    We know we can't use 8 (8^2=64) … how about 7 and 9? this makes an easy
    secondary shift. How about -7 and 9? This makes it much more difficult for software to
    break. It will still create 63, a single matrix shift (you'll understand soon).

    Matrix 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Matrix 2
    abcdefgh - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8
    ijklmnop - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 b6 b7 b8
    qrstuvwx - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -c1 c2 c3 c4 c5 c6 c7 c8
    yzABCDEF- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -d1 d2 d3 d4 d5 d6 d7 d8
    GHIJKLMN- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - e1 e2 e3 e4 e5 e6 e7 e8
    OPQRSTUV- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 f8
    WXYZ!@#$- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - g1 g2 g3 g4 g5 g6 g7 g8
    %^&*(),. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 h7 h8

    Now we have our matrices, and we have our cipher…now its just work!
    Notice - count from "a" 7 bits… you come to "g" now count 7 more you come to "n"

    Encrypted Matrix 1- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Matrix 2
    gnuAGNU@( - - - - - - - - --- - - - a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8
    dkryFMT! - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 b6 b7 b8
    *cjqxELS- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --c1 c2 c3 c4 c5 c6 c7 c8
    Z&bipwDK- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - d1 d2 d3 d4 d5 d6 d7 d8
    RY^ahovC- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - e1 e2 e3 e4 e5 e6 e7 e8
    JQX%.gnu- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 f8
    BIPW$,fm - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - g1 g2 g3 g4 g5 g6 g7 g8
    tAHOV# ) e- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 h7 h8

    Whew!!! ok, now we have an encrypted matrix - our cypher! Now a really sharp system would
    allow for different encryption shifts. How? Well, by allowing our first numbers into our
    messages.

    I know…your saying "Hey Wait!!!" "You said no salting!" … well.. the fun part is that our "salt"
    isn't salt - its useful. It describes the cypher system.
    79
    Ya
    vh
    Jq
    !g
    ZX
    TM
    Xn and thats mate...

    The encryption is described as 79 (point shift) and each message is from square to square.

    -GIN
  15. Kalispell, MT
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    24 Mar '11 21:104 edits
    Originally posted by Nowakowski
    [b]Encrypting the perfect square.


    First, an important point here is that we know the total message length is 64. So any kind of
    block cypher can be used and salted - although this is not the route that we will be taking
    here…for simplicities sake.

    64 bits?

    26 characters in the english alphabet.
    52 characters when including capitals and cribed as 79 (point shift) and each message is from square to square.

    -GIN[/b]
    ugh. made a mistake on the encrypted matrix... bleh

    I assume someone will see it eventually.
    Still sound in theory - just needs to be re-encrypted.

    Corrected matrix:
    gnuBIPW$ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - a1 a2 a3 a4 a5 a6 a7 a8
    ,fmtAHOV - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 b6 b7 b8
    # )elszGN - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -c1 c2 c3 c4 c5 c6 c7 c8
    U@(dkryF - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -d1 d2 d3 d4 d5 d6 d7 d8
    MT!*cjqx - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -e1 e2 e3 e4 e5 e6 e7 e8
    ELSZ&bip - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -f1 f2 f3 f4 f5 f6 f7 f8
    wDKRY^ah - - - - - - - - - - - - - - g1 g2 g3 g4 g5 g6 g7 g8
    ovCJQX%. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -h1 h2 h3 h4 h5 h6 h7 h8

    -GIN
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