So, there I was, just killing a day at work, playing this game. I was white, and had the move.
White has a slight material edge - a piece for two pawns. Instead of the eminently sensible 17.Qa2+, I decided to grab the e-pawn right away with 17.Nxe5???, missing Black's 'minor threat'.
"I feel like having Christmas!", my ebullient opponent proclaimed as slammed the Knight down.
So, I slunk away with 18.Kf1, and after the obligatory 18...Nxa1, it was time for the shameless sliming attempt. 19.Nd5!?
Black, full of the Christmas spirit, merrily plunged in for the kill with 19...Qb1+ 20.Be1 Nc2...
...only to find that the Grinch now stole Christmas with 21.Ne7+ Kh8 22.N5g6#!
[Unfortunately, my opponent did not (or pretended not to?!) get the Grinch reference...but I sent him a link 😛]
Why is it that sloppy games like this are sometimes more enjoyable to win than a cleanly played technical game?
Originally posted by SwissGambitawesome game! its because at any moment either one must walk the plank! i love games like that!
So, there I was, just killing a day at work, playing this game. I was white, and had the move.
[fen]2b2rk1/1ppp2pp/5n2/4p3/1q1n4/2NP1NP1/3BPPB1/Q3K2R w K - 0 17[/fen]
White has a slight material edge - a piece for two pawns. Instead of the eminently sensible 17.Qa2+, I decided to grab the e-pawn right away with 17.Nxe5???, missing Black's 'minor th ...[text shortened]... y games like this are sometimes more enjoyable to win than a cleanly played technical game?
Originally posted by SwissGambitFor a few reasons
Why is it that sloppy games like this are sometimes more enjoyable to win than a cleanly played technical game?
1) Because you suck at chess, you cannot play a clean game anyway
2) Because you won, hurray
3) And winning, that is what makes you happy
(Yes that's true for all of us)
I was hoping for a more sophisticated reason from you for dropping the Queenie 🙁
Originally posted by heinzkatLOL at 1) - yes, I must plead guilty. At one point I had delusions of actually being a good player. But actually having to work at playing the game led quickly to burnout.
For a few reasons
1) Because you suck at chess, you cannot play a clean game anyway
2) Because you won, hurray
3) And winning, that is what makes you happy
(Yes that's true for all of us)
I was hoping for a more sophisticated reason from you for dropping the Queenie 🙁
You are so in the wrong thread if you want sophisticated. I don't play that kind of chess anymore.
Originally posted by SwissGambitSophisticated may be a word a bit too ambitious, but I meant it in the sense that you have proven before that you can have the pieces move like you want them to 😛
LOL at 1) - yes, I must plead guilty. At one point I had delusions of actually being a good player. But actually having to work at playing the game led quickly to burnout.
You are so in the wrong thread if you want sophisticated. I don't play that kind of chess anymore.
Hi SG
Great game. good point:
"Why is it that sloppy games like this are sometimes more
enjoyable to win than a cleanly played technical game?"
Because the feeling of total elation at snatching a win from a lost
postion is fantastic. You become addicted to this feeling and base your
whole game around taking risks, playing dodgy openings, unsound sacs etc
just to get yourself in a severe jam looking for your fix.
However, your sentence could have also have read.
"Why is it that sloppy games like this are sometimes more painful to
lose than a cleanly played technical game?"
Here we have it reverse. The feeling after losing a won game hangs
over your head for days and such losses have been known to turn
players away from the game.
It's far better to lose without a sniff of victory than to have the win
snatched away from you because you blunder in a won position.
And so we get into the psyche of a player's make up.
Take me for instance.
The pain of losing a won game is worse than the joy of winning
a lost game. So I try to avoid having a won game in case I blow it
and strive to have a lost game so I can win it.
If I lose my lost game. Who cares, I was lost anyway.
the important thing is I was not winning and then lost it.
So you have to ask yourself.
Does the pleasure of winning out weigh the pain of losing.
Or does the sting of a loss affect you more than a win?
SG: You will have to PM me the full game - I don't need the real
names if you don't want to, but the game needs to go on the Corner.
Originally posted by greenpawn34This brilliancy is in SG's RHP archive.
SG: You will have to PM me the full game - I don't need the real
names if you don't want to, but the game needs to go on the Corner.
"Or does the sting of a loss affect you more than a win?"
A lot more, a win is always: OK of course I won, b'cuz I am the BEST chess player in the WORLD and my opponent was p1200 material, and when I lose it's huh, how is this possible, come on now, how could you possibly mess up this one? 😕
Originally posted by SwissGambitI was also referring to the fact that my best "chess memories" are solely plain results-wise instead of "quality of chess" or "beauty of chess display" 😕 - the only thing that counts is that I got some sort of "prize" or "reward" because of some dubious scoring system. Don't we just love being the winner......
LOL at 1) - yes, I must plead guilty. At one point I had delusions of actually being a good player. But actually having to work at playing the game led quickly to burnout.
You are so in the wrong thread if you want sophisticated. I don't play that kind of chess anymore.