It's not an opeing... it's a mess my view. my least favourite line in chess..
can someone kindly post a game where black declines the gambit.(maybe except but not g5, or be7 which i find no good) Keeps a sane posistion (by this i mean not attacking to early & castling) and then clobbers white ... i would like to see it done...
I've always liked 2...d5. White sits down to sac a pawn and attack,
suddenly he is a pawn up and defending.
It's not 100% sound White has better moves but what he played
looked good enough Over The Board.
He ran his King up the h-file avoiding a perpetual thinking he would be
safe.
He missed the Queen Sac.
Originally posted by greenpawn34The thing is with experienced king's gambiteers, they usually know how to deal with the falkbeer countergambit (2...d5), and it is now known as a suspicious line, while people used to think it was a refutation!
I've always liked 2...d5. White sits down to sac a pawn and attack,
suddenly he is a pawn up and defending.
It's not 100% sound White has better moves but what he played
looked good enough Over The Board.
He ran his King up the h-file avoiding a perpetual thinking he would be
safe.
He missed the Queen Sac.
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[Event "5 minute game be ...[text shortened]... 2+ 16. Kh4 Be7+ 17. Kh5 Qa5+ 18. Bb5 Qxb5+ 19. Qxb5 g6+ 20.Kh6 Ng4[/pgn][/b]
Originally posted by Black Star UchessI quite often play a work colleague who uses the classical defence 2...Bc5
It's not an opeing... it's a mess my view. my least favourite line in chess..
can someone kindly post a game where black declines the gambit.(maybe except but not g5, or be7 which i find no good) Keeps a sane posistion (by this i mean not attacking to early & castling) and then clobbers white ... i would like to see it done...
I thought he played pretty solidly in the game below:
Originally posted by Squelchbelch2...Bc5 has only one drawback - your opponent may switch to deadly drawish positions very fast.
I quite often play a work colleague who uses the classical defence 2...Bc5
I thought he played pretty solidly in the game below:
[pgn][Event "Challenge"] [Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"] [Date "2009.01.24"] [EndDate "2009.02.17"] [Round "?"] [White "Squelchbelch"] [Black "coventry city"] [WhiteRating "1678"] [BlackRating "1537"] [WhiteELO 4 O-O-O 16. Ra1d1 Rh8e8 17. Ke3f2 Bd7c6 18. Rh1e1 Kc8b8 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
Due to this I have started to play 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 (3.Nc3 exf4 4.Nf3 Be7!?) f5!?
Originally posted by KorchWhat are your thoughts on the Modern (1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Nf3 d5 4.exd5 Nf6) ?
2...Bc5 has only one drawback - your opponent may switch to deadly drawish positions very fast.
Due to this I have started to play 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 (3.Nc3 exf4 4.Nf3 Be7!?) f5!?
Originally posted by Black Star UchessHi
John - oops ! although 2..bc5, then i guess 3.nf3, d6 looks ok
Greenpawn... that is very elegnat .. but not really heading for the quieter waters i was looking for! still thanks for posting! 🙂
I'm afraid you if you expose your King (and waste a tempo with f4)
then the quiet waters can quickly turn into a raging torrent.
After 1e4 e5 the move 2.f4 of course is playable but it is not
as good as 2.Nf3. You are not playing the best move in the position.
Yes 2....d5 is suspicious but 2.f4 is looked upon as even more
suspicious by today's top players and even the older lads had
thier doubts.
The Kig's Gambit does not figure in any of the World Champions
opening rep from Steinitz to Anand (exception was Spassky).
Play it by all means, it's an excellent grounding in tactical play
and you will have lots of fun with it.
But you can bet your new shoes that any good player who plays
1....e5 in answer to 1.e4 has a line v the KG. And White is committed
from move 2 to go along.
hi yes , i thought it must be unsound in some way. i don't really play it as white ... but i constantly have to defend against it as black in blitz games... it's annoying on uchess i think a few players have figured out i'm bad at it and keep playing it over and over!
i've noticed that there are quite a few lines . g5, d5, and be7 where black can fight back early but they always lead to trouble it's very hard to play the sort ' full board tactics' they cause in bltz... have to admit i blunder most away .. why i was looking for a quiter line ...
Don't look for quiet lines, especially in blitz games which are usually
decided by tactics.
K.G. gambiteers hate 2...d5. They have to swallow a pawn and Black
gets developed.
Switch openings.
Consider the Scandinavian 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 & g6 & Bg7 & 0-0
then c6 and have fun. This avoids their KG (which is an ideal blitz
weapon if Black plays 2...exf4).