Who else here gets quite annoyed when black plays this opening - I find it is quite irritating now, even though something often hapens during the game, a draw seems to invariably be the end result.
Are there any more aggressive options then 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3. d4
or is that about as good a game as white gets?
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexIt's reputation is a bit sketchy. There are much more solid lines, why don't you see what the GMs prefer right now?
That is a bit mad, it looks a bit like the halloween gambit.
Might be intresting to look into though, have you had any games using it?
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexNo, I don't think so...I've used those lines just fine. You're on a pretty high level, I think you can figure it out somewhat.
Whenever I see it in the super GM tournaments they like playing 1.e4 e5 2.Nf6 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 but I think those are positions you have to be a grand master to really understand how to make any sort of advantage for white.
Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschexyou think that gms can force an advantage in the Petroff's?
Whenever I see it in the super GM tournaments they like playing 1.e4 e5 2.Nf6 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 but I think those are positions you have to be a grand master to really understand how to make any sort of advantage for white.
are you kidding?
Petroff's has the most notoriously drawish reputation in all of major chess openings.
here's probably the most realistic line:
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
1/2-1/2
Originally posted by cmsMasterI would prefer to know what I was aiming for rather then just memorising the moves - it makes things easier for plan forming.
No, I don't think so...I've used those lines just fine. You're on a pretty high level, I think you can figure it out somewhat.
It is a shame they dont like computers being used here, I vaguely remember hydra coming up with some quite creative new ideas in the petroff against michael adams but I cant referance those games.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexI know that at least one of my opponents did...
Who else here gets quite annoyed when black plays this opening
My first draw ever was with the Petrov against a much higher rated player. I am quite happy with a drawish game if I know my winning chances are close to 0.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexYou're allowed to look up lines using an engine as long as it's not to effect moves in a game currently in progress.
I would prefer to know what I was aiming for rather then just memorising the moves - it makes things easier for plan forming.
It is a shame they dont like computers being used here, I vaguely remember hydra coming up with some quite creative new ideas in the petroff against michael adams but I cant referance those games.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexYes, you need to be a GM to play 2.Nf6. 😉
Whenever I see it in the super GM tournaments they like playing 1.e4 e5 2.Nf6 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 but I think those are positions you have to be a grand master to really understand how to make any sort of advantage for white.
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I have been searching for games. Found something by topalov which might be intresting to try out one day.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3
*Edit* Just tried this out in a blitz game, by pure chance my opponant played the petroff. I felt the position was ok for white, not as good as I would have liked but more active then normal.
Whenever I get stuck for ideas, I look at topalovs games - he is great for coming up with attacking ideas in the opening.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexIn his "An Attacking Repertoire for White", Sam Collins recommends the Topalov line above.
I have been searching for games. Found something by topalov which might be intresting to try out one day.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3
*Edit* Just tried this out in a blitz game, by pure chance my opponant played the petroff. I felt the position was ok for white, not as good as I would have liked but more active then normal.
...[text shortened]... ideas, I look at topalovs games - he is great for coming up with attacking ideas in the opening.
In their "An Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Player (revised edition)", Keene and Levy recommend 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nf6 3 Nc3.
Originally posted by TyrannosauruschexI don't see why you couldn't play Nc3 earlier like gaychessplayer reccommended.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3...I felt the position was ok for white, not as good as I would have liked but more active then normal...
After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 you'll probably either face 3. ... Bb4 or eventually transpose into a Four Knights Game.