23 Nov 07
I apologize in advance to all the chess experts but I have been having success on occassion with a checkmate or two by setting up both of my bishops so that that are parrell to eachother and in conjunction with my Queen such that we seem to trap the other army . I run into problems when i don't do it exactly right but when it works it's great. Now, my question is simply, is this some sort of a particular chess move that has a name that i don't know about and that if using your bishops in this way should be combined with a different combinaation other than a rook or a queen? i just dont know enough at this point and am uncovering strategies that sometimes work.ty b
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by big bernYou just solved chess. 😞
I apologize in advance to all the chess experts but I have been having success on occassion with a checkmate or two by setting up both of my bishops so that that are parrell to eachother and in conjunction with my Queen such that we seem to trap the other army . I run into problems when i don't do it exactly right but when it works it's great. Now, my quest ...[text shortened]... ? i just dont know enough at this point and am uncovering strategies that sometimes work.ty b
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by big bernah yes, the infamous "my-opponent-really-sucks-at-chess" maneuver.
I apologize in advance to all the chess experts but I have been having success on occassion with a checkmate or two by setting up both of my bishops so that that are parrell to eachother and in conjunction with my Queen such that we seem to trap the other army . I run into problems when i don't do it exactly right but when it works it's great. Now, my quest ...[text shortened]... ? i just dont know enough at this point and am uncovering strategies that sometimes work.ty b
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by big bernthere's the term "bishop pair" but it's for a positional advantage in open games (against the knights, which are said to be better in closed games), but I do not know of a special name of mate maneuver made by the two bishops.
I apologize in advance to all the chess experts but I have been having success on occassion with a checkmate or two by setting up both of my bishops so that that are parrell to eachother and in conjunction with my Queen such that we seem to trap the other army . I run into problems when i don't do it exactly right but when it works it's great. Now, my quest ...[text shortened]... ? i just dont know enough at this point and am uncovering strategies that sometimes work.ty b
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by big bernYou have discovered that the bishop pair work particularly well when aligned in parallel, because they cover squares of both colour. When operating in a cross-fire, they are less effective in many cases.
I apologize in advance to all the chess experts but I have been having success on occassion with a checkmate or two by setting up both of my bishops so that that are parrell to eachother and in conjunction with my Queen such that we seem to trap the other army . I run into problems when i don't do it exactly right but when it works it's great. Now, my quest ...[text shortened]... ? i just dont know enough at this point and am uncovering strategies that sometimes work.ty b
Bishops work well with queens, but then so do all the pieces(!) due to her power. Queens like to lead attacks with bishops in support.
It is good to see you developing your strategic understanding. You dont need to be an expert to feel this excitement when it clicks which combination of pieces work well together. Like the previous poster said, there is no particular name for what you describe, but the two bishops together are generally considered stronger than bishop + knight, or knight + knight - for exactly the reasons you are discovering. Chess knowledge builds over time, so good luck 🙂
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by Policestateafter policestate's post, it just hit me, if you are really passionate about this game as your profile says, you might want to read some chess books where these strategic ideas are explained, and given to you as knowledge, instead of realizing and re-inventing them on your own. people just do not have enough time to reinvent chess by playing, you need to (and you can) learn all these ideas (like the rooks "liking" open files or the 7th rank, etc) from the previous masters of the game.
You have discovered that the bishop pair work particularly well when aligned in parallel, because they cover squares of both colour. When operating in a cross-fire, they are less effective in many cases.
Bishops work well with queens, but then so do all the pieces(!) due to her power. Queens like to lead attacks with bishops in support.
It is good to s ...[text shortened]... - for exactly the reasons you are discovering. Chess knowledge builds over time, so good luck 🙂
in addition, studying tactics problems also could help developing that intution (on which pieces work together well in what kind of positions).
23 Nov 07
Originally posted by diskamylthanks everyone!!!!!!!! i appreciate all of your thoughts, i love this game , i'm eternally hooked i just want to get better . i have never seen a game that has so many different aspects to it. good luck to all of you who responded in the positive. Some day I will be able to help someone else who is passionate about the game and the chain continues. regards, b.
after policestate's post, it just hit me, if you are really passionate about this game as your profile says, you might want to read some chess books where these strategic ideas are explained, and given to you as knowledge, instead of realizing and re-inventing them on your own. people just do not have enough time to reinvent chess by playing, you need to (a ...[text shortened]... help developing that intution (on which pieces work together well in what kind of positions).
24 Nov 07
Originally posted by diskamylthank you, by the way... what is the 7th rank? b.
after policestate's post, it just hit me, if you are really passionate about this game as your profile says, you might want to read some chess books where these strategic ideas are explained, and given to you as knowledge, instead of realizing and re-inventing them on your own. people just do not have enough time to reinvent chess by playing, you need to (a ...[text shortened]... help developing that intution (on which pieces work together well in what kind of positions).
24 Nov 07
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Originally posted by big bernA rank is the set of 8 squares going horizontally across the board. From White's point of view, the white pieces at the beginning of the game are on the first rank, the white pawns are on the second rank, etc. So when you talk of putting your rook on the opponent's 7th rank, you're putting your rook on the rank where your opponent's pawns began the game.
thank you, by the way... what is the 7th rank? b.
Dang it, wormwood beat me to the answer. I should have made a shorter response. 😵
25 Nov 07
Originally posted by Mad Rookgot it thank you.
A rank is the set of 8 squares going horizontally across the board. From White's point of view, the white pieces at the beginning of the game are on the first rank, the white pawns are on the second rank, etc. So when you talk of putting your rook on the opponent's 7th rank, you're putting your rook on the rank where your opponent's pawns began the game.
Dang it, wormwood beat me to the answer. I should have made a shorter response. 😵