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two drawn games (analysis needed)

two drawn games (analysis needed)

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The Smoke

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recently two of my games ended in draw, wondering if there was a winning strategy for either of them (from the position where they ended in draw)?.

Game 1 - drawn by my opponent (3-move rule). I'm black and to move.



Game 2 - drawn by me (3-move rule). I'm black and white to move. I could've won his knight on d2 (after having exchanged queens) , but didn't see a winning line after that, and losing the game would've threaten my prospects of winning the tournament (still in progress)



thanks for your time in advance

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quickly:
- on game 1 a draw looks fair, I would say, especially for black 🙂

- on the second one, Black MUST win, given the situation. I don't know how, but he has to.

NMD

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Both positions are unclear as far as I can see.

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Originally posted by Macpo
quickly:
- on game 1 a draw looks fair, I would say, especially for black 🙂

- on the second one, Black MUST win, given the situation. I don't know how, but he has to.
I tend to agree, only the 'must win' part may be exaggerated. Still, the following exchange line leaves black with an extra pawn in a knight endgame:

Kg2 R1h2+ Kg1 Qxe3 fxe3 Rxd2 Rxf7 Rdh2 Raf1 Rh1+ Kf2 Rxf1+ Kxf1 Rf6+ Rxf6 Nxf6 Ke2 Ne4 Kd3 Nxg3 ....

This is not a forced line, and it may be possible for white to find improvements, but it looks a natural line to me.

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Originally posted by Mephisto2
Kg2 R1h2+ Kg1 Qxe3 fxe3 Rxd2 Rxf7 Rdh2 Raf1 Rh1+ Kf2 Rxf1+ Kxf1 Rf6+ Rxf6 Nxf6 Ke2 Ne4 Kd3 Nxg3 ....

This is not a forced line, and it may be possible for white to find improvements, but it looks a natural line to me.
thanks for the feedback..

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