Originally posted by morgski Another installment of our online rivalry, and from my perspective our most enjoyable game yet. Full of mistakes, valiant fight backs, tactical endings, and the importance of bishops
Game 8953874
[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Ng1f3 Nb8c6 3. Bf1c4 Bf8c5 4. b4 {Fairly standard up until now, where VE offers a pawn for the chance to build on my bishop with tempo} Bc5xb4 {I accept} 5. Bc1b2
What, wait... two players of this calibre, and neither of them has even heard of the Evans Gambit? Shomething amissh, shurely?
45...Bxf3 looks pretty good for black, because your attacking the pawn duo early 46. Kf4 Nc4 47. Kxf3 Nxd2 48. h6 Ne4! looks winning for black i think ( Im probably wrong though)
Originally posted by Shallow Blue What, wait... two players of this calibre, and neither of them has even heard of the Evans Gambit? Shomething amissh, shurely?
Richard
Fair shout Richard, for my part at least I didn't know we were playing the Evans. The names of openings is not my strong point. The whole idea of the games against VelvetEars for me are to try moves I would not usually do (in this case 1. e5). For example, I started our new game with 1. f4, an opening I have NEVER tried before (and have no idea for names in further lines). While I am comfortable in my openings as black (generally d5 or c5), they are limited and the lines I play are generally few. I was expecting 5. c3 when I accepted the gambit, which I see now after a little youtube search is the main line.
Live and learn 🙂
Originally posted by luke myster 45...Bxf3 looks pretty good for black, because your attacking the pawn duo early 46. Kf4 Nc4 47. Kxf3 Nxd2 48. h6 Ne4! looks winning for black i think ( Im probably wrong though)
If by 45...Bxf3 you mean 45...Bxg4 then that is an interesting line
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nc4 {Here you suggested Kxg4 but instead I can play..} Rh2 {Another option is h6 which queen the h pawn and will lead to a queen vs queen,knight,bishop ending} 3. Be6 h6 4. Bg8 {b2 fails to Rxb2 Nxb2 h7 and the pawn queens} h7 5. Bxh7 Rxh7 6. b2 Rh1 {And all I need to do is sac my rook for the pawn and it's a draw}
Thanks for the contribution and an interesting line I overlooked while playing the game!
Originally posted by VelvetEars If by 45...Bxf3 you mean 45...Bxg4 then that is an interesting line
[pgn]
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nc4 {Here you suggested Kxg4 but instead I can play..} Rh2 {Another option is h6 which queen the h pawn and will lead to a queen vs queen,knight,bishop ending} 3. Be6 h6 4. Bg8 {b2 fails to Rxb2 Nxb2 h7 and the pawn ]
Thanks for the contribution and an interesting line I overlooked while playing the game!
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nc4 {Here you suggested Kxg4 but instead I can play..} Rh2 {Another option is h6 which queen the h pawn and will lead to a queen vs queen,knight,bishop ending} 3. Be6 h6 4. Bg8 {b2 fails to Rxb2 Nxb2 h7 and the pawn queens} h7 5. Bxh7 Rxh7 6. b2 Rh1 {And all I need to do is sac my rook for the pawn and it's a draw} 7. Na3 Ke3 8. Kb4 {threatens Nc4+ sometimes while and staying away from getting checked on the third rank by the white rook. now 8...Kd3 allows 9.Kb3} Kd2 9. Kb3 Rh3+ {what else?} 10. Ka2 Rh1 11. Nb5 Kc2 12. Nd4+ Kc3 13.Nb3 Kc2 {this looks like a draw but it wasn't easy to do! and the rook never gets sacced... : )}
Originally posted by tomtom232 saccing your rook isn't quite so easy though.
[pgn]
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nc4 {Here you suggested Kxg4 but instead I can play..} Rh2 {Another option is h6 which queen the h pawn and will lead to a queen vs queen,knight,bishop ending} 3. Be6 h6 4. Bg8 {b2 fails to Rxb2 Nxb2 h7 and the pawn queens} h7 5. Bxh7 Rxh looks like a draw but it wasn't easy to do! and the rook never gets sacced... : )}
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[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nf3 {instead of Nc4} h6 3. Nxd2 Kxg4 4. b2 h7 5. b1=Q h8=Q {The queen and knight should be able to mate the king or win the queen with checks the whole way.}
Originally posted by tomtom232 [pgn]
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nf3 {instead of Nc4} h6 3. Nxd2 Kxg4 4. b2 h7 5. b1=Q h8=Q {The queen and knight should be able to mate the king or win the queen with checks the whole way.}[/pgn]
on your second example 1...Bxf4 2. Kf4 Nf3 3. Kxg4 Nxd2 h6 Ne4 also wins i think. For example: Kf5 Nf6! Kxf6 b2 h7 B1=Q H8=Q Qa1+ wins
Originally posted by tomtom232 [pgn]
[FEN "8/8/8/2k1n2P/6P1/1p3bK1/3R4/8 b - - 1 45"] 1. Bxg4 Kf4 2. Nf3 {instead of Nc4} h6 3. Nxd2 Kxg4 4. b2 h7 5. b1=Q h8=Q {The queen and knight should be able to mate the king or win the queen with checks the whole way.}[/pgn]
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