1. Cyberspace
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    13 May '10 08:29
    For anand - GMs Nielsen, ganguly, kasimdzhanov and who was the fourth?

    For topalov - cheparinov and ???
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    13 May '10 09:36
    Originally posted by arterioes
    For anand - GMs Nielsen, ganguly, kasimdzhanov and who was the fourth?

    For topalov - cheparinov and ???
    I know Topalov also had Smeets and LAmi on his team.
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    13 May '10 10:41
    Anand had Wojtaszek, and Topalov had Dufek, in addition to the ones already mentioned.
  4. Cyberspace
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    13 May '10 14:33
    Originally posted by mtthw
    Anand had Wojtaszek, and Topalov had Dufek, in addition to the ones already mentioned.
    Dufek? As in Jiri Dufek with a FIDE rating of 2276??
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    13 May '10 15:08
    Originally posted by arterioes
    Dufek? As in Jiri Dufek with a FIDE rating of 2276??
    "The seconds of both players arrived at the venue. As it turned out, Anand had the same group of helpers as in Bonn: Peter Heine Nielsen, Rustam Kasimdzhanov, Surya Ganguly and Radoslaw Wojtaszek. We already knew that Topalov worked with Jan Smeets, Erwin l’Ami, Ivan Cheparinov and Jiri Dufek"

    Above is a cut&paste from an article posted on chessvibes.com
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    13 May '10 16:14
    Originally posted by arterioes
    Dufek? As in Jiri Dufek with a FIDE rating of 2276??
    Maybe he is awesome with the computer?
  7. Standard memberThabtos
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    13 May '10 17:06
    Jiri Dufek is just another way to say Rybka 4.
  8. Mililani, Hawaii
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    15 May '10 09:45
    I am curious as to just what "seconds" can do for the main player. I'm sure all is legal and within the rules, but what do they actually do? Would appreciate any response to this question.
  9. Mililani, Hawaii
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    15 May '10 09:48
    What do "seconds" do for the main player? I know it's all legal and according to the rules of chess. But what do they actually do? Would appreciate any awswer to my question.
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    15 May '10 10:101 edit
    Originally posted by Vince123
    What do "seconds" do for the main player? I know it's all legal and according to the rules of chess. But what do they actually do? Would appreciate any awswer to my question.
    The seconds are mainly there to help with opening preparation, although most of that will have been done in the months before the match.

    They'll carefully go over the games played, looking for improvements for both sides.

    That's a lot of hours of analysis for each game, so the players need a team of helpers to do the work.
  11. Standard memberatticus2
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    15 May '10 20:04
    Originally posted by David Tebb
    The seconds are mainly there to help with opening preparation...carefully go over the games played, looking for improvements...hours of analysis for each game
    Of course, none of this applies if your second is RD Keene πŸ™„
  12. Subscribersonhouse
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    15 May '10 20:26
    Originally posted by arterioes
    Dufek? As in Jiri Dufek with a FIDE rating of 2276??
    Hey, I'll take itπŸ™‚
  13. Standard memberrandolph
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    16 May '10 05:28
    Originally posted by Thabtos
    Jiri Dufek is just another way to say Rybka 4.
    This. Topalov (through Dufek, one of Rybka's programmers) had access to the most powerful computer in the world which also happens to have one of the best openings books.
  14. Donationketchuplover
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    21 May '10 11:59
    Bobby Fischer is rolling over in his grave at the thought of so much assistance.
  15. Cyberspace
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    22 May '10 18:08
    Check out the chessbase report on anands 'human cluster'. People who assisted him during and before the match
    Garry kasparov
    Magnus Carlsen
    V Kramnik
    Anish Giri

    Do I sense a collective hatred of topalov or what?
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