[Event "rated standard match"] [Site "fics2.freechess.org"] [Date "2013.07.21"] [Round "?"] [White "jjamesge"] [Black "thekingofham"] [Result "*"] [BlackElo "2400"] [ECO "E61"] [Opening "King's Indian"] [Variation "4.Nf3 O-O 5.e3 d6 6.Be2"] [WhiteElo "2400"] [TimeControl "900+5"] [Termination "unterminated"] [PlyCount "51"] [WhiteType "human"] [BlackType "human"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 {I play the KID because I hope it will teach me tactics. I also like it because it is defensively aesthetic to me(White usually attacks the queenside, and if I make one wrong move, I am forced to defend tough positions). However, I cannot forget that if I play KID, my job is to win.} 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. e3 {I hate this move. It means White doesn't want to get in the Petrosian system of the KID(my favorite player, and as such, one of my favorite openings).} O-O 5. Be2 d6 6. O-O a5 {With the idea that if White plays an early d5, I can play Nb4 and then Na6 getting into familiar(at least for me) black side of the Petrosian system.)} 7. Bd2 Nc6 8. a3 {I guess White wanted to stop Nb4? I just put my knight on e7 like the Mar Del Plata.} e5 9. d5 Ne7 10. Qc2 Bf5 {It felt natural to me, developing a piece and then attacking.} 11. Qc3 Ne4 {Finally taking advantage of the e4 hole. The computer says that I was too lazy to play Ne4 earlier.} 12. Qb3 Nxd2 13. Nbxd2 Bc8 {I like defending.): The computer says I should've "sacrificed" a pawn with 13...a4 14. Qxb7 Rb8 15. Qa6 e4 16. Nd4 Rxb2 17. Rfd1 Bxd4 18. exd4 Qb8 19. Qa4 e3! 20. fxe3 Bc2 Perhaps this is the most entertaining move?} (13. .. a4 14. Qxb7 Rb8 15. Qa6 e4 16. Nd4 Rxb2 17. Rfd1 Bxd4 18. exd4 Qb8 19. Qxa4 e3 20. fxe3 Bc2) 14. e4 c6 {Begging White to open up the position to free up my bishop pair.} 15. Rac1 (15. dxc6 bxc6) 15. .. c5 {I couldn't be bothered anymore. I wanted to try to lock up White's bishop.} 16. Qc2 Bh6 {Prophylactic idea is to stop Ng5 after f5 and then Ne6(forking the queen and rook, very annoying tactic) Also, it helps stop Nb1-c3-b5 by pinnig the knight to the rook.} 17. Rcd1 Bg7 {I tend to beg for a draw against pretty much anyone(the fact that my opponent is lower-rated doesn't really bother me).} 18. Nb1 Bd7 {To make room for Nc8-Na7 to stop Nb5.} 19. a4 Nc8 20. Nc3 Na7 21. Ra1 f5 {I finally get to play f5. Some players joke that we should all try to play f5 in every game.} 22. Nd2 f4 {Like in Nakamura vs Radjabov in 2008.} 23. Nf3 g5 24. g3 Bh3 {I couldn't help myself.} 25. Rfd1 Qf6 {With plans to take the knight back to c8, then Ne7, then Ng6, and finally g4! After Nh4 Qf2+ Kh1 Nxh4 and I threaten checkmate. Hopefully, white doesn't let me get away with such a cheap trick.} 26. Bf1 {White doesn't let me get away with it by resigning.} *
5...c5 is keeping within the idea of the defense in attacking White's center. It especially looks good if White should take the pawn opening up the long diagonal for Black's fianchettoed bishop and the pawn can easily be regained by Na6 and Nxc5 or Qa5+ and Qxc5 or Ne5 etc. But he will probably play 6.d5 as he did later when you attacked it with 8...e5
Originally posted by sonhouse What is so horrible about white's position he had to resign?
He said "It wasn't fun anymore. I can't win or draw." I think that was the first time I've ever won a game that way. He can still fight back with 26. Qb3 or play 26. Kh1
RJHinds the c5 move looks fun. I might try that next time.
I thought you played a pretty good game. I particularly liked 22. ... f4, I think Black is winning after that.
However I wasn't so sure about your play on the queenside. Did you consider trying to get a knight to c5? Usually that's why Black plays a5 in the Kings Indian, so that a knight on c5 can't be kicked easily with b2-b4.
The Kings Indian is very flexible and there are lots of ways of playing it. Personally I'm happiest when the centre is blocked up (i.e. White has played d5) and his queenside counterplay is slow or non-existent. I certainly wouldn't have tried c7-c6 at that stage in the game. I would have left that sort of thing for later if the kingside attack failed.
I'm not sure how I would have continued at the end. Perhaps Bd7 and then go for g4 and if Nh4 then go for f3, Bh6 and Bg5, then perhaps pushing the h-pawn if the knight on h4 moves back to g2.
Originally posted by sonhouse What is so horrible about white's position he had to resign?
I believe White saw his last move as a mistake that might lose his undefended knight after Black attacks and pins it with 26...Bg4. If White goes back with 27.Be2 fxg3 opens the f-file for Black putting two more pieces on the knight and if the knight tries to get out of the way, then he would be Checkmated.
Originally posted by hamworld He said "It wasn't fun anymore. I can't win or draw." I think that was the first time I've ever won a game that way. He can still fight back with 26. Qb3 or play 26. Kh1
RJHinds the c5 move looks fun. I might try that next time.
I think he should have waited before resigning to see if you might trade bishops.
Originally posted by Fat Lady I thought you played a pretty good game. I particularly liked 22. ... f4, I think Black is winning after that.
However I wasn't so sure about your play on the queenside. Did you consider trying to get a knight to c5? Usually that's why Black plays a5 in the Kings Indian, so that a knight on c5 can't be kicked easily with b2-b4.
The Kings Indian is ver ...[text shortened]... for f3, Bh6 and Bg5, then perhaps pushing the h-pawn if the knight on h4 moves back to g2.
A knight to c5? Like, 9...Nb8, then 10...Na6 then 11...Nc5? That idea never occured to me. I apparently did not realize my knight could go to b8(how silly of me) If White plays e4 at one point, perhaps I could play Nh4, then to Nf4 to go for the bishop pair and then play f5? What about playing 12...a4 and then playing Nb3 to take advantage of the b3 hole?
A knight on c5 is a very common idea in the King's Indian. There is a video about it here:
YouTube I have no idea how good this is as I am at work so can't watch it with sound on at the moment!
Try looking for King's Indian games on chessgames.com. It is such a rich defence that you might get a bit confused about the completely different ways that masters have played it in the past. The secret is to find games which seem logical to you, in other words ones which you could imagine yourself playing if only you could stop blundering and had ten times as long to think about the moves! Then try to emulate the ideas from those games in your own games.
The first time I saw a game where Black played a5, Na6 and Nc5 I was blown away about how wonderful the knight was on that square and now try to play it myself whenever I can, even in positions where it is completely inappropriate.
What could I have done to make this game more entertaining?
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