Yikes. Can someone better than me please look at this game (I was black) and tell me how on EARTH I lost? I truly do not understand. My opponent went on the psychotic KBP attack of the century early in the game, and I beat it back fairly easily. Lost castling rights and a pawn, but got huge development advantage and ended up winning a rook outright.
And he whips up ANOTHER attack, a rook down, and gets all these horrible threats. I'm sitting here thinking oh, come on, I've got two rooks and queen to his one rook and queen, all I need is a couple of moves and I can have him on the mat, and he goes and get this evil position where I lose chunks of material. In a panic, I head straight into a checkmate.
Now, admittedly, 23 ... Rhc8 would probably have solved most of my problems. But, I needed that rook for my own attack!
How did this happen? I mean, really? How did this happen? I'm a pretty agressive player. For goodness sakes, I play the King's Gambit regularly. I play the MUZIO variation, regularly. But I wouldn't DREAM of attacking like that, especially right from the opening. And I just don't understand how I failed to cream him.
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 d6 4. Ng5 Be6 5. Bxe6 fxe6 6. Nxe6 Qe7 7. Qh5+ Kd7 8. Nxf8+ Qxf8 9. Nc3 Nf6 10. Qf5+ Ke7 11. d3 Nd4 12. Nd5+ Kd8 13. Qg5 Nxc2+ 14. Ke2 Nxa1 15. Be3 Nc2 16. Rc1 Nd4+ 17. Bxd4 exd4 18. Nxf6 Qxf6 19. Qd5 c6 20. Qa5+ Kd7 21. b4 b6 22. Qa4 b5 23. Qa6 d5 24. Qb7+ Ke6 25. Rxc6+ Ke5 26. Rxf6 gxf6 27. Qxd5+ Kf4 28. Qf5# {Black checkmated} 1-0
Next time I suggest you go 4....,Qxg5 smile and say thank you very much.
On move 12 it was better to play Nxd5,he has to trade queens and then regain the knight after which you take on c2+ regaining your pawn and then winning a rook.You'll prolly have to give back the knight but it would still leave you an exchange up.
You missed two good chances in the first 12 moves,I'd say that's why you lost. 🙁
Is this a game played on RHP? If so, please give the Game ID. It looks interesting.
I got soundly beaten the other day playing the King's gambit (as white); by not being aware early enough that a devastating counter attack by black was under the way. It is only eight moves in length, totally embarrassing, but quite brilliant in its subtefuge. The outcome is either mate, terrible material loss or both.
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i'm toying with the idea of playing the kings gambit, mainly as it seems to result in wildly tactical games which is a good way of improving tactical ability. i've started reading bill wall's 500 minature kings gambit games to get a feel for the traps that await both sides. you don't get dull games playing the kings gambit!!
Originally posted by GatecrasherTotal chess newbie here, apologies in advance because this is probably such a dumb obvious answer that when I hear it, I will have to pound myself over the head with the keyboard.
I got soundly beaten the other day playing the King's gambit (as white); by not being aware early enough that a devastating counter attack by black was under the way. It is only eight moves in length, totally embarrassing, but quite brilliant in its subtefuge. The outcome is either mate, terrible material loss or both.
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Please explain why you quit this game. Why is it checkmate? Why can't the white g-pawn or the white queen just capture the black bishop on F3? "Checkmate", as I've had it laboriously explained to me, is when (a) the king can't go anywhere, but (b) he HAS to move because if he doesn't, in the next turn, someone would capture him, that is, if they were allowed to actually capture him. So what I see is that the white king doesn't *have* to move at all, he's not even in check from the black bishop, who is a light-square bishop, and the king's on a dark square. He's sitting pretty--the g-pawn or the white queen can capture the black bishop, can't they? And the game can go on? So why quit?
And the king would be in check from the black knight on either D2 or F2--but he doesn't *have* to move, because he's not in check from the black bishop. So who is he in check from?
What am I missing here? It's late at night, maybe I'm just not seeing it. Is there more of the game somewhere?
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[chess level I am at, just FYI: I have been playing chess with Learn To Play Chess With Fritz and Chesster for about a month now, and I can beat King Kaleidoscope to a stalemate about half the time, if I make liberal use of both the Hints and TakeBack functions. In other words, I suck. So speak slowly and use words of one syllable, please.]
Originally posted by ChessMomAfter gxf3 it is over: 1.gxf3,Qh4+ 2.Ke2,Qf2+ 3.Kd3,Nb4 mate
Total chess newbie here, apologies in advance because this is probably such a dumb obvious answer that when I hear it, I will have to pound myself over the head with the keyboard.
Please explain why you quit this game. Why is it checkmate? Why can't the white g-pawn or the white queen just capture the black bishop on F3? "Checkmate", as I've had i ...[text shortened]... ack functions. In other words, I suck. So speak slowly and use words of one syllable, please.]
But indeed after Qxf3 I don't see why it has to be over,say 1.Qxf3,Nxd4 2.Qd3 and white's position is not so grand but it's not resignable either.Or am I missing something too.......
Originally posted by GatecrasherIt wasn't, it was a FICS game, sorry, the PGN is all I have.
Is this a game played on RHP? If so, please give the Game ID. It looks interesting.
I got soundly beaten the other day playing the King's gambit (as white); by not being aware early enough that a devastating counter attack by black ...[text shortened]... r mate, terrible material loss or both.
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On the King's gambit -- it does seem to yield tactical madness. I have a fair amount of success with it against human opponents, but the computer invariably CRUSHES me with it whenever I try, just because computers are so good, tactically.
Your game... weird. That's definitely a nonstandard king's gambit game. I tend to think the point of the Gambit is to whip up a really fast attack, generally, -- castle kingside extremely early, get pressure up that F file. In your game, I would have stuck that bishop on C4 on move 3, castled on move 4, and let him try and futz around counterattacking. Can't waste time in that kind of opening.
In your game, I really don't see why you resigned when you did. What's wrong with Qxf3? I rather like it, in fact. That queen WANTS to be on the F file. Then... uh... Nxd4 is the most threatening move I can see for black. Qh3 is fine. Am I missing something?
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Duh! I was clearly hallucinating when I resigned.
Okay Qh3 is not good, because of Nxc2+ forking the king and rook. But Qd3 as pointed out above is not too bad at all. Even Qd1 is not too bad. What was I thinking? I should not have resigned.
The only explanation for my stupidity is that I must have accidently removed the pawn on g2 during analysis, and thus considered the position hopeless! And not noticed its reappearance before clicking the resign button! Aggghhhh!
Sorry about that.
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yea, good point with Qh3 sucking.
Incidentally, my favorite RHP King's Gambit game just ended. Here's what happens where white not only grabs the development advantage by the teeth, but black hands over an extra development advantage to white by bringing the queen in a nice harassable position, plus grabs the knight that ISN'T threatening the KBP, rather than the one that is:
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Originally posted by martinbeaverHeh. Here's one suggestion (he says, laughing like crazy) -- as black, do NOT play ... f3, at any point during the game. :-)
i'm toying with the idea of playing the kings gambit, mainly as it seems to result in wildly tactical games which is a good way of improving tactical ability. i've started reading bill wall's 500 minature kings gambit games to get a ...[text shortened]... t both sides. you don't get dull games playing the kings gambit!!
A game I just had on FICS...
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 f6 4. Bc4 Ne7 5. O-O g5 6. Nh4 gxh4 7. Qh5+ Ng6 8. Rxf4 Bd6 9. Rg4 Ke7 10. Rxg6 hxg6 11. Qxg6 Kf8 12. Qf7#
{Black checkmated} 1-0
That's why I love the Gambit so much -- it tends to cause people to make really stupid, horrible horrible mistakes! And really, any mistake is a really stupid, horrible, horrible mistake against the King's Gambit, because it's just so aggressive...