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    19 Oct '11 03:12
    Hey,
    I am wondering what actually makes the Arch Angel Defense be what it is. Below is the start of a game with Anand-Shirov. The magazine says that it is a sharp arch angel defense, but black's light squared bishop does not go to b7.

    1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Bc5 6. c3 b5
    7. Bc2 d5 8. a4 dxe4 9. axb5 Bg4 10. Bxe4 Nxe4 11. bxc6 O-O

    What is the actual definition of the arch angel defense? Do I just need to to go an opening book like Nun's Chess Openings(NCO) and see the different variations that qualify?

    KingOnPoint
  2. Joined
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    19 Oct '11 03:16
    The previous Anand-Shirov game ECO is C78, but a Kasparov-Kramnik C78 game has the black bishop going to b7.
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    19 Oct '11 03:323 edits
    Originally posted by KingOnPoint
    The previous Anand-Shirov game ECO is C78, but a Kasparov-Kramnik C78 game has the black bishop going to b7.
    That's a modern Archangel:

    4...Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Bc5 (Modern Archangel Defence)

    the Archangelsk (or Archangel) is

    3...a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Bb7
  4. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    19 Oct '11 05:141 edit
    This is the OP's pgn thingy 🙂

  5. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    19 Oct '11 05:20
    Originally posted by UnderPromote
    That's a modern Archangel:

    4...Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Bc5 (Modern Archangel Defence)

    the Archangelsk (or Archangel) is

    3...a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Bb7
    (Modern Archangel Defence)



    the Archangelsk (or Archangel) is

  6. Joined
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    19 Oct '11 06:05
    If black's light squared bishop doesn't go to b7, but g4, is that still the modern ark angel opening?

    KingOnPoint
  7. Standard memberProper Knob
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    19 Oct '11 08:09
    I always remember this Arkhangelsk game from a book i have, mainly because of the double rook sac.

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