1. Standard memberKepler
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    20 Oct '08 15:081 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Berliner's was 82% in Kepler's analysis. Here's the entire (interesting) thread: http://www.timeforchess.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=97088&page=1#post_1817591
    I went on and improved on that later. Using a variety of engines and longer times I got Berliner up to 85% over a much larger sample of games. His performance in the world championship is also "better" than my original analysis. I suspect that this is the result of the engines getting closer to human play if given greater resources such as processor power, time etc rather than the moves mysteriously becoming more engine-like.

    Basically i borrowed my son's multi core PC and ran HIARCs, Rybka and Shredder. Give an engine five minutes a move on a fast machine and it is surprising how human they start to appear.
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    20 Oct '08 15:18
    Very interesting - thanks chaps.
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    20 Oct '08 19:08
    What was the percentage match up of Kramniks games against topalov in their reunification match? Topalov seemed to think it was high enough to indicate engine use, but few people believe him, so I was thinking maybe that might be a good benchmark as to how close a strong human player can match up to an engine without using one.
  4. Standard memberKepler
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    20 Oct '08 21:36
    Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
    What was the percentage match up of Kramniks games against topalov in their reunification match? Topalov seemed to think it was high enough to indicate engine use, but few people believe him, so I was thinking maybe that might be a good benchmark as to how close a strong human player can match up to an engine without using one.
    That I don't know. I think I used those games but didn't keep details of each game separate. I don't recall Kramnik's match rate being massively high in any game to be honest.
  5. Standard memberKorch
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    23 Oct '08 10:24
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    I can see the 2008 Championship win being awarded 2 or 3 times over the next year or so unless swift action isn't taken.
    If game moderation will not work then it will not be possible...... 😕
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    29 Oct '08 09:411 edit
    Still no bans and still some obvious cheats are haunting.....
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    05 Nov '08 18:51
    Originally posted by Korch
    Still no bans and still some obvious cheats are haunting.....
    User 379545 and User 308457 gone 😲
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    05 Nov '08 21:19
    Originally posted by CauselessOne
    User 379545 and User 308457 gone 😲
    Old news...
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    06 Nov '08 00:371 edit
    Phatboy666 was banned.
    So it seems the game moderation is still active.
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