I AM LOOKING FOR A SOFTWARE PROGRAM TO HELP ANALIZE MY GAMES AND USE AS A TEACHING TOOL. I HAVE NARROWED THE FIELD DOWN TO THESE 4.
CHESS TIGER
FRITZ
CHESSMASTER
SHREDDER
I HAVE READ A BUNCH OF REVIEWS/SALES PROPOGANDA ON THE WEB, AND THEY ALL PROMISE TO MAKE A BEGINNER PLAY LIKE A PRO.
BUT SERIOUSLY WHICH IS BETTER BASED ON THE FEATURES:
1. USER FRIENDLY INTERFACE
2. TEACHING TOOLS
3. GAME ANALYSIS
4. BOARD/GAME OPTIONS
5.WINDOWS COMPATIBILITY
ANY ASSISSTANCE AND ADVICE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Except for Chessmaster, all of them have the exact same tools and interface. The only difference between them is their engine. Personally I believe that the strongest engine you mentioned is shredder, but it's not a big difference. So if you decide on a chessbase compatible program (fritz, chess tiger, or shredder) they will all be the same except for small differences in playing style/strength and analysis. They have an excellent database of games and allow you to create your own databases of your games as well and perform studies and analysis. I would also suggest the chessbase compatible junior, as I think it is the strongest and most humanlike engine.
With Chessmaster you will get something very different. Chessmaster is a much better program for beginners because it has more teaching tools. There are training exercises, vocally annotated games, and tests of playing strength. Chessmaster also has much easier playing strength levels and is much more user friendly. However, the engine is not as strong as the other programs and it is not as easy to analyse a position. It also doesn't have all of the analysis tools that chessbase programs do.
In general, chessbase is a good teaching tool for beginners but the training exercises may be too easy for experts. For people that just want good, easy analysis and an opponent, chessbase is the way to go. But if you want chess lessons from a tutor for a variety of abilities, sacrificing some playing strength and database function, go for Chessmaster.
Excellent responce ARK13, I would give you a rec if I could figure out how.
I haven't made up my mind yet but, I'm getting there. One thing that concerns me is compatibility, specifically between chessmaster and windows. I have read a couple of reviews from individuals who were having "serious problems" with chessmaster & windows XP.
Have you heard of or experienced this problem?
Thanks again for your summary, you have been a big help already.
TJN22
Well, to answer your first question, there should be a blue link that says recommend. You can click that to recommend me, I mean someone. Not me, well, but. Not just me. 😛
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by compatability, but I'll take a stab at it. Chessmaster does have some problems with crashing on windows, especially when accessing the opening library, but it certainly isn’t unusable. Also, I don't know if you can copy and paste the pgn files directly into chessmaster (I assume it reads pgn though?) Chessmaster isn't the program for entering, analysing, and storing your games in a database. It's more of a tutor.
Anyway, I could go on and on giving the pros and cons on topics you may not care about. Why don’t you tell me what you plan to use this program for so that maybe I can help your decision better. 😀
The tutorials on CM 10th are supposed to be excellent. I bought this for my brother for X-Mas, and he loves it. I played some bullet games against a guy on pogo.com who claimed to have been playing for only 4 mos. He was wiping me out, and my pogo bullet rating usually hovers around 1900. He said that he has studied exclusively with CM 10. If he's honest (which remains in question), then that speaks volumes for the Chessmaster tutorials. I, however, own Fritz 8. Keep in mind that I have read dozens of chess books, and I doubt that there would be much value in the tutorials for me. I am very happy with Fritz as a playing program, and am only beginning to use it for analysis. For training, I only use tactics and endgame books right now, and occasionally check my games against a database to try to improve an opening.
Good luck,
Brian
I had problems with chessmaster 10 needing a high end graphics card or else the blinking cursor drives you crazy. Oh, another annoying feature of Cm is that it never resigns. And another annoyance is the little messages it gives you after you lose (or win). they all sound alike, generic. the analysis language in fritz, however, is uncanny, almost human in style.
Originally posted by BLReidMore like using CM10 to play chess for him for 4 months. (Is accusing people on other sites allowed? Guess we'll find out)
The tutorials on CM 10th are supposed to be excellent. I bought this for my brother for X-Mas, and he loves it. I played some bullet games against a guy on pogo.com who claimed to have been playing for only 4 mos. He was wiping me out, and my pogo bullet rating usually hovers around 1900. He said that he has studied exclusively with CM 10. If he's honest (wh ...[text shortened]... asionally check my games against a database to try to improve an opening.
Good luck,
Brian
Originally posted by johnnybikedownload chessbase light from www.chessbase.com. This will allow you to store games in a database. If you like it, buy the full version, it's awesome, though expensive. 😉
Excellent response and summary Ark13.
Changing tack very slightly, I am registered to play some correspondence chess and was wondering what the best s/w was to keep a track of a few concurrent games
John
Originally posted by ark13Starting with the rec thing.....Where would the "blue link" be, I don't see one on my screen?
Well, to answer your first question, there should be a blue link that says recommend. You can click that to recommend me, I mean someone. Not me, well, but. Not just me. 😛
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by compatability, but I'll take a stab at it. Chessmaster does have some problems with crashing on windows, especially when accessing the openi ...[text shortened]... tell me what you plan to use this program for so that maybe I can help your decision better. 😀
I'm not a subscriber so maybe that's not available to me.....
Chessmaster crashing while accessing the opening library is the issue I was refering to. This is something I would like to know more about.
Side note: I went back to the reviews I was reading to refresh my memory, they were both links from E-bay.
What I'd like to do with the program is jack into the matrix, download everything there is to know about chess, and become an instant GM.😉
What I need is help in all facets of my game:
Opening-lots of help needed here
Middle game-o.k. if I make it thru the opening
End game-????
I would like to use the program as a learning tool to improve my openings & tactics. I find it difficult to memorize openings especially. I don't know enough about any of the software(s)
to know if a database will be much assistance. But I do know one of the ways I learn best is by looking back at a game and picking it apart
for bad moves, better moves, and missed oppertunites. Everything I know about chess I learned by just playing or a few books I borrowed from the library. I'm thinking a few lessons from a "tutor" would help alot. I would also like to play games at or just above my playing level and be able to test myself. I know just being able to play more games would help. Right now I only play here at RHP and with a couple of friends every now and then OTB.
I'm not looking for a program to be everything all wrapped up in a tortilla, but I would like to make an educated and informed purchase.
If there is one program that will do almost everything, fine.
If in the long run I'll need two (1 for teaching, 1 for analysis) thats o.k.
At least I know that ahead of time and I won't be disappointed.
I'm not looking to do any custom programming or download a bunch of stuff of the net. I would just like to be able to play level appropriate games, learn and improve my openings & tactics, and be able to analize my game to see where I screwed up. The more I get into this the more that seems like a pretty tall order.
Regards,
Tim 🙄