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Do you think correspondence Grandmasters/players in general have a deeper understanding of chess than OTB Grandmasters/players in general, or vice versa?
Originally posted by BedlamA difficult question. I think to be a successful correspondence player requires much more perseverance and hard work, sometimes spending hours analysing reams of variations and possible moves.
Do you think correspondence Grandmasters/players in general have a deeper understanding of chess than OTB Grandmasters/players in general, or vice versa?
Originally posted by masscat"Current World Corres. Champ, Ivar Bern, admits to engine use, and in the ICCF their use is legal, so I think the answer is OTB GM's are better...."
Current World Corres. Champ, Ivar Bern, admits to engine use, and in the ICCF their use is legal, so I think the answer is OTB GM's are better. Even if you go back to pre-computer days, top-level correspondence players were non-GM's OTB. Most correspondence players have ratings a couple hundred points higher than their OTB ratings (even those that don't use engines).
Originally posted by masscatI don't see the logic sorry. You are saying that a 2600 OTB GM has the same understanding as a 2600 corr GM and as corr GMs have lower OTB ratings they must have less understanding. Firstly you can't compare ratings like that. Secondly, corr and OTB are very different skills, of course someone who concentrates on one over the other would excel in that one.
Current World Corres. Champ, Ivar Bern, admits to engine use, and in the ICCF their use is legal, so I think the answer is OTB GM's are better. Even if you go back to pre-computer days, top-level correspondence players were non-GM's OTB. Most correspondence players have ratings a couple hundred points higher than their OTB ratings (even those that don't use engines).
Originally posted by masscatWhich list has the best press?
Steinitz, Lasker, Capablanca, Alekhine, Euwe, Botvinnik, Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, Karpov, Kasparv, Kramnik
Purdy, Ragozin, O’Kelly, Zagorovsky, Berliner, Rittner, Estrin, Sloth, Oim, Palciauskas, Baumbach, Sanakoev, Umansky, Timmerman, Hamarat, Bern, van Oosterman
Which list has the best players?