Woohoo, I won my first tournament

@gruler said
The opening is often called Symmetrical English, and accordingly ECO lists it as A39. But it is really a Yugoslav Variation KID, and it is included in "The King's Indian Defence" by Barden, Hartston and Keene, published 1969. Ray Keene wrote that chapter.

Thanks for the info. I'm surprised to see it called a kings indian. I would have called it a catalan personally, but hey ho..

After 13 moves the game is identical to Penillas Mendez - Loureda Garcia 1997 with a slightly different move order. Penillas Mendez went on to win.

https://www.365chess.com/view_game.php?g=1108342&m=25

The position is the same for both an English Symmetrical and a King's Indian defence variation. I think the determining factor is when Black plays the pawn to d6. KID is on move 6, while the other 3 listed d6 occurs on move 9. So officially I think it's English Symmetrical Main Line (A39).

Marinkatomb game stub:

English Symmetrical move order, which actually has 10 moves of this variation listed in my ecocodes.txt from Arena GUI.





King's Indian defence with 7 moves listed in the variation from ecocodes.txt.



I believe it can't be a Catalan unless Black plays an early pawn to d5 and e6 and develops the dark squared Bishop along the a3-f8 diagonal.

@meat-puppet said
After 13 moves the game is identical to Penillas Mendez - Loureda Garcia 1997 with a slightly different move order. Penillas Mendez went on to win.

https://www.365chess.com/view_game.php?g=1108342&m=25

The position is the same for both an English Symmetrical and a King's Indian defence variation. I think the determining factor is when Black plays the pawn to d6. KID ...[text shortened]... lack plays an early pawn to d5 and e6 and develops the dark squared Bishop along the a3-f8 diagonal.

Ah so Qd2 is actually theory, interesting. Thanks for the info 🙂

@marinkatomb said
I tied for first in the Norfolk congress this weekend! It was the u150 section, but still pretty cool. 😀

Congratulations!!!

-VR

@marinkatomb said
I tied for first in the Norfolk congress this weekend! It was the u150 section, but still pretty cool. 😀

What is 150 in USCF land? congrats for sure.