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I'm intrigued if anyone has a thought on this. If, near the start of a game, with no pieces gone...would you consider exchanging your bishop and knight for a rook and a pawn. Not forced into this position - just an idea. It would also stop the king castling.

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it happens a lot in blitz games but usually after castling

I think it's a bad trade because even thou it's an "even" trade 6 for 6 it gives you one less attacking piece.

I have some games on here where it happened I'll post them if I can find them.

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Thanks for the reply. You're right on the one less big piece point - I just wonder when you throw the no-castling into the mix how much difference that makes.

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This is a common occurence, as it sounds like the kinght fork at c2-c7.

It has backfired on me before because you are losing two pieces that are key in the opening.middle game for a piece that is important in the endgame, meaning that your opponent has a good chance to gain a huge advantage on you. Not to mention that a rook/pawn is worth the same as two minor pieces.

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I see that a lot of games the rooks are inactive until the latter parts of the middle game. I'd rather go for the active pieces. Then again I'm no master.

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I think that against a lower rated opponent, this would be fine. Its got a good psychological impact, with the humiliation of the fork and the ability to castle taken away. But against good play, this plan would be iffy.

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You'll see it on f2/f7. I think it is a waste because of the tempo you used to bring both pieces to that square. At least 2 for the bishop and at least 3 for the knight. The castling maneuver and the final capture with the king is two tempi.

It might be worth it if the opponent has already gone down in material like a couple pawns or hung a piece.

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Originally posted by jibb666
I'm intrigued if anyone has a thought on this. If, near the start of a game, with no pieces gone...would you consider exchanging your bishop and knight for a rook and a pawn. Not forced into this position - just an idea. It would also stop the king castling.
I don't like being on either end of this trade, but early in the game, I think the two minor peices are better than the rook and pawn.

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Thanks guys - just thinking about not using my normal defensive start to the game. All good points you made - much appreciated. :-)

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Originally posted by jibb666
Thanks guys - just thinking about not using my normal defensive start to the game. All good points you made - much appreciated. :-)
Like most things in chess, it really depends on the position - so if it's done in a common position it would be a good idea to post it.

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Originally posted by jibb666
I'm intrigued if anyone has a thought on this. If, near the start of a game, with no pieces gone...would you consider exchanging your bishop and knight for a rook and a pawn. Not forced into this position - just an idea. It would also stop the king castling.
Yes and no. 😠

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Originally posted by jibb666
I'm intrigued if anyone has a thought on this. If, near the start of a game, with no pieces gone...would you consider exchanging your bishop and knight for a rook and a pawn. Not forced into this position - just an idea. It would also stop the king castling.
in general, most middlegames favor the two minor pieces over the rook and pawn.