# AI and the Turing test

sonhouse
Posers and Puzzles 27 Jun '05 16:58
1. sonhouse
Fast and Curious
27 Jun '05 16:58
The turing test is the ability to decide if a voice on a telephone
or words typed on a screen come from a human (presumably
intelligent) or an intelligent computer. The gist is if the computer
fools people into thinking its a human, it has passed the turing test.
the Turing in this case is an early-mid 20th century mathematician
by the name of Alan Turning who cracked the german codes in WWII.\
I was thinking, suppose you have an AI who, by itself, would not
pass the turing test, suppose that AI had access to the internet and
the vast information store there. How could you tell then? It could
call up facts and statistics and talk about the lastest scientific
theories with authority, latest sports results, hollywood gossip,
academy awards, etc., and had a superfast connection, the info
could come in as fast as you could speak and it could respond in
real time as if someone had just read the news. So under those
conditions, how do you detect an AI?
2. PBE6
Bananarama
27 Jun '05 17:34
Originally posted by sonhouse
The turing test is the ability to decide if a voice on a telephone
or words typed on a screen come from a human (presumably
intelligent) or an intelligent computer. The gist is if the computer
fools people into thinking its a human, it has passed the turing test.
the Turing in this case is an early-mid 20th century mathematician
by the name of Alan Tur ...[text shortened]... time as if someone had just read the news. So under those
conditions, how do you detect an AI?
I suppose you could ask it a question which would require it to synthesize some information and come up with something new, or state and then explain their opinion on something.
3. Shanshu311
Vox Populi
27 Jun '05 21:24
Originally posted by sonhouse
The turing test is the ability to decide if a voice on a telephone
or words typed on a screen come from a human (presumably
intelligent) or an intelligent computer. The gist is if the computer
fools people into thinking its a human, it has passed the turing test.
the Turing in this case is an early-mid 20th century mathematician
by the name of Alan Tur ...[text shortened]... time as if someone had just read the news. So under those
conditions, how do you detect an AI?
But the second you started to ask questions that did not have answers, it would become confused and give responses that made no sense, as earlier experiements have shown.

I think using the internet as a resource tool would only help if you asked specific questions. A question like "why does my silly girlfriend always cook pot roast for dinner?" could yield answers that had nothing to do with the question, and thus would prove to be AI.

4. sonhouse
Fast and Curious
28 Jun '05 01:01
Originally posted by Shanshu311
But the second you started to ask questions that did not have answers, it would become confused and give responses that made no sense, as earlier experiements have shown.

I think using the internet as a resource tool would only help if you asked specific questions. A question like "why does my silly girlfriend always cook pot roast for dinner?" co ...[text shortened]... ld yield answers that had nothing to do with the question, and thus would prove to be AI.

you are no doubt right, but it would be a bit harder to pin down.
It might have random answers built in, like recognising
girlfriend or other key words and put out deflecting statements
like " your girlfriend is always like that" So it would depend on the
sophistication of the programming as usual.
5. XanthosNZ
Cancerous Bus Crash
28 Jun '05 01:32
Originally posted by sonhouse
The turing test is the ability to decide if a voice on a telephone
or words typed on a screen come from a human (presumably
intelligent) or an intelligent computer. The gist is if the computer
fools people into thinking its a human, it has passed the turing test.
the Turing in this case is an early-mid 20th century mathematician
by the name of Alan Tur ...[text shortened]... time as if someone had just read the news. So under those
conditions, how do you detect an AI?
I think you are a computer. The excess linebreaks give it away.
6. sonhouse
Fast and Curious
28 Jun '05 10:39
Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I think you are a computer. The excess linebreaks give it away.
OMG I've been caught out. How did you know? All these years
I have been trying to hide out on the internet going from
computer to computer hiding out in hard drive after hard drive.
Oh the filth I've had to live with! You would be suprised what
goes on inside those hard drives, disgracefull I tell you.
Thank heavens I can finally come out in the open, its a relief
in a way, all that hiding, finding voltage where I can, it was awful.
7. Palynka
Upward Spiral
28 Jun '05 10:57
Originally posted by Shanshu311
But the second you started to ask questions that did not have answers, it would become confused and give responses that made no sense, as earlier experiements have shown.

I think using the internet as a resource tool would only help if you asked specific questions. A question like "why does my silly girlfriend always cook pot roast for dinner?" co ...[text shortened]... ld yield answers that had nothing to do with the question, and thus would prove to be AI.

An easy way out for the programmers would be having a lot of ad Hominem attacks (e.g. using the profiles) prepared for use in the event of confusion.

That's what most humans do, anyway.
8. PBE6
Bananarama
29 Jun '05 07:03
Originally posted by Palynka
An easy way out for the programmers would be having a lot of ad Hominem attacks (e.g. using the profiles) prepared for use in the event of confusion.

That's what most humans do, anyway.
You smell like a retarded rat drowning in broccoli soup.

BTW, I'm not a computer. I think.
9. 29 Jun '05 07:34

Lots pf people posting here in the forums wouldn't pass the Turing Test... ðŸ˜€

Programs that simulates human chat use stereotyped (sp?) phrases, e.g.:

"war is war, losers"

LOL!

10. Palynka
Upward Spiral
29 Jun '05 09:26
Originally posted by PBE6
You smell like a retarded rat drowning in broccoli soup.

BTW, I'm not a computer. I think.
Does anyone know any other recipes to cure constipation?
11. AThousandYoung
All My Soldiers...
29 Jun '05 11:13
Originally posted by Palynka
Does anyone know any other recipes to cure constipation?
YES.

Wait, is this the divinanza thread?
12. sonhouse
Fast and Curious
29 Jun '05 16:08
Originally posted by Palynka
Does anyone know any other recipes to cure constipation?
sure, here's a sure fire recipe:
Stick a fire hose up your butt and turn on the water, great cure.
13. Bowmann
Non-Subscriber
29 Jun '05 17:21
"Are you any good?"
14. Palynka
Upward Spiral
29 Jun '05 18:51
Originally posted by sonhouse
sure, here's a sure fire recipe:
Stick a fire hose up your butt and turn on the water, great cure.
That's refreshing.
15. ark13
Enola Straight
03 Jul '05 22:36
Originally posted by LittleBear

Lots pf people posting here in the forums wouldn't pass the Turing Test... ðŸ˜€

Programs that simulates human chat use stereotyped (sp?) phrases, e.g.:

"war is war, losers"

LOL!

Yes, Bowmann could quite easily be a computer program.