# Black Wins With 1 Move

Bowmann
Posers and Puzzles 03 Feb '06 23:02
1. Bowmann
Non-Subscriber
03 Feb '06 23:02

Black to play.
2. 04 Feb '06 00:07
can black win a piece somehow?

i only see 1...h4, and after 2. g3 h3, white cannot move (his rooks or king), black brings the king to queens wing and wins
after 2. anything, black comes with g-pawn to g4, then plays h3.
3. Bowmann
Non-Subscriber
04 Feb '06 00:37
Originally posted by crazyblue
can black win a piece somehow?

i only see 1...h4, and after 2. g3 h3, white cannot move (his rooks or king), black brings the king to queens wing and wins
after 2. anything, black comes with g-pawn to g4, then plays h3.
You seemed to be getting there for a moment. Then it all went pear-shaped.
4. 04 Feb '06 03:29
Originally posted by crazyblue
can black win a piece somehow?

i only see 1...h4, and after 2. g3 h3, white cannot move (his rooks or king), black brings the king to queens wing and wins
after 2. anything, black comes with g-pawn to g4, then plays h3.
Fancy code, what is "queen's wing". and what is "g-pawn"?
5. sonhouse
Fast and Curious
04 Feb '06 04:051 edit
Originally posted by SJ247
Fancy code, what is "queen's wing". and what is "g-pawn"?
When you look at the pieces in the setup before you move, the kings
are on one side facing each other and the queens facing each other.
So that side of the board from the queen to the left side rook is
the Queens' side or wing and likewise the half of the board from the
king to its side rook is the Kings side or wing.
h4 is the algebraic notation of where the pieces move. You must have
seen this in the history of your own games. It shows all the moves
in A1 to H8 notation. Its much much better than the old english
notation of pawn to queens 4 and so forth. That system sucked
bigtime.
Nice pic in your profile BTW. What state are you in, well besides the
state of confusion!?
6. BigDoggProblem
04 Feb '06 04:431 edit
Originally posted by crazyblue
can black win a piece somehow?

i only see 1...h4, and after 2. g3 h3, white cannot move (his rooks or king), black brings the king to queens wing and wins
after 2. anything, black comes with g-pawn to g4, then plays h3.
As you point out, White can't move his Rooks or King after 1...h4 2.g3 h3. Therefore, just shuffle the black King until White exhausts his pawn moves. Simple as that.

EDIT: Just to be thorough, shuffle the bK in a manner that allows no possibility of cheap back-rank mates (e.g. wPg6 and bKh8).
7. 04 Feb '06 08:08
Thank you for reducing my confusion.
8. celticcountry
04 Feb '06 11:23
is the answer something to do with the difference between

a) black to mate in 1

and

b) black wins with one move

the ONE move being the 4th move?
9. Bowmann
Non-Subscriber
04 Feb '06 15:14
Originally posted by SJ247
Fancy code, what is "queen's wing". and what is "g-pawn"?
Hello 😉
10. 04 Feb '06 20:11
Originally posted by Bowmann
Hello 😉
Hi there, was the retard remark that fetched a wink wasn't it. 😕
11. Bowmann
Non-Subscriber
04 Feb '06 20:35
Originally posted by SJ247
Hi there, was the retard remark that fetched a wink wasn't it. 😕
12. ark13
Enola Straight
04 Feb '06 20:54
Originally posted by Bowmann
I'm impressed. The first step to solving a problem is admitting that you have one.
13. 04 Feb '06 21:05
Originally posted by ark13
I'm impressed. The first step to solving a problem is admitting that you have one.
Be nice, you can do it. I know it's hard in online chess forums, but it's possible.

This "puzzle" has me stumped, as most on this site do. What exactly are you looking for, a series of moves for black to win?
14. 04 Feb '06 21:34
Originally posted by SJ247
This "puzzle" has me stumped, as most on this site do. What exactly are you looking for, a series of moves for black to win?
Judging by the looks of it that is pretty much what the original poster intended as a solution: a continuation that would inevitably grant sufficient material advantage for Black and ensure a win.
15. ark13
Enola Straight
04 Feb '06 22:411 edit
Originally posted by SJ247
Be nice, you can do it. I know it's hard in online chess forums, but it's possible.
No one's nice to Bowmann. And I'm usually one of the nicer ones on this site. But once you're here for a few months, you begin to be mean to others. You promised yourself you wouldn't, but the meanness of others slowly seeps into your body until you are what you most despise, and you don't even know it.

I hope you enjoy it here. 😀 😉