Originally posted by tlai1992On the contrary. The infinate amount IS what makes it equal to one. Once you read and understand the princibles on infinity in calculus you will understand why these two nubers are equal.
.999 repeating?
1>.99999999999999999999
no matter how many 9s are there it still wouldn't equal 1. Numbers are infinite.
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All YOU Junior Arithematicians are missing the point of:
"Does 0.9... = 1.0...?" Let me ask it this way, since we have a Worldwide audience here: Is the sun, our sun, ole' Sol, shining?
The answer is Yes and No. If you can't figure all the ramifications of that POSER without being told then you FAILED Earth science.
Mathematically and succinctly, sans all the algebraic mishmash (AM):
0.9... equals 1.0..., but is not identical to it. It is a case of perspective, relevance, and continuity. If you need the AM, you are
lacking in cognitive reasoning. I say this for 3-reasons: 1) not everything can be put into math-terms (take Chess for instance), 2)
most things are unique unto themselves just for the very reason of their existence (take each member of RHP for instance), and; 3)
all things are unique according to Perspective-Position (take atoms that are composed of electrons, neutrons, and protons) . Simply put,
even though math cannot represent something, it may/may not be unique just for existing, however when dealt with on a personal basis
everything is unique but not necessaily equal (even when it is the same). All protons are the same, IE equal, but are not unique.
Why, because each has it's own energy state and position in the unverse among other parameters.
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Originally posted by ancrI prefer my mathematically rigorous mumbo-jumbo. Do I need to follow Zen Buddhism or understand the Hegelian dialectic to appreciate the deeper truth (or indeed sense) of what you are saying, or is it true by virtue of being said?
All YOU Junior Arithematicians are missing the point of:
"Does 0.9... = 1.0...?" Let me ask it this way, since we have a Worldwide audience here: Is the sun, our sun, ole' Sol, shining?
The answer is Yes and No. If you can't figure al ...[text shortened]... United States of America
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Alternatively, you've simply posted this in the wrong thread for effect, instead of a certain Debates thread where it would score handsomely. If so, congratulations 😉
Originally posted by ancrWell.. this is an intresting statement. I don't see any thing relevant here though.
All YOU Junior Arithematicians are missing the point of:
"Does 0.9... = 1.0...?" Let me ask it this way, since we have a Worldwide audience here: Is the sun, our sun, ole' Sol, shining?
The answer is Yes and No. If you can't figure all the ramifications of that POSER without being told then you FAILED Earth science.
Mathematically and succinctly, sa ...[text shortened]... Carolina 27515-2066
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It sort of fails in the first reason for your statement.
Indead 0.9...=1 is pure math (numerical theory) and has nothing to do with that "everything" you deny you can put in math-terms.
If I'm wrong here tell me how this "everything" *is* relevant.
The fact that an apple equals a banana, but are not identical to each other, has no impact on a problem within a closed system (math in this case).
In a closed system equality is identical to identity.
(A wholly unfounded statement made on pure belief and simple logic. Prove me wrong.)
Everything CAN be put into math, though the process is cumbersome and entirely useless.
May i remind you of the meaning of the '=' sign?
0.999... = 1 means that the numbers are identical. They are the same. No matter what you use it for, they are one and the same number. Commonly annotated by '1'. I don't know what you have in mind with the continuity you mentioned, but even there the two numbers are identical in use.
As for the sun question. If you want to know if it shines NOW, you will have to wait about 8 minutes until i know the answer (EDIT actually, you'll have to wait a bit longer, it's night here)
Originally posted by Dodger11You're the fool here, it seems. Proofs have been given in this thread, but apparently you didn't bother to read it before making this post.
Nope, it doesn't. String the 9's out as far as you want, it still ain't one. Any fool can see that.
0.999... means that the 9 go on infinitely. You can't 'string' this number out as far as you want. For that would make the string of 9's finite. Exactly because there are infinite 9's does it equal one.
I ask you, what's the difference between this number and 1?
0.0001?
Nope, since 0.999... is surely greater then 0.99999 so the difference with 1 is surely smaller then 1 - 0.99999 = 0.00001.
Alright the difference is 0.0000000001 then?
Nope, since 0.999... is surely greater then 0.999999999999999999 so the difference with 1 is surely smaller then 0.000000000000000001.
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Actually, it should go on forever, exactly like this thread, and like 1 which equals 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...
hey, I'm taking my first shot at algebra here, and so please keep in mind that I'm only 13 and in my algebra 1 class for the first time. I really don't understand most of those equations and everything, so I thought of a completely different answer. The other day, my class went into unit conversions and during the class, we talked about money. It appears that the mexican currency is the pesos, and is equivalent to about .9999999 of a U.S. dollar. Could money conversion be another way that .9999999... equals one? I'm still not entirely sure.
Originally posted by obvekAt one point, Mexicans accepted American currency, but an American dollar was worth only 0.9 pesos. At the same time, Americans valued pesos at a 90 cents each. A clever Texan (see, times have changed) went into a Mexican bar and got a 0.1-peso beer, paying with a peso, and receiving a US dollar in change. He wandered across the border, went into a bar, and got a ten-cent beer with the dollar, getting a peso in change. On this one bit of currency, he's had a free beer for each nine in the decimal expansion of 1.
hey, I'm taking my first shot at algebra here, and so please keep in mind that I'm only 13 and in my algebra 1 class for the first time. I really don't understand most of those equations and everything, so I thought of a completely different answer. The other day, my class went into unit conversions and during the class, we talked about money. It appears th ...[text shortened]... Could money conversion be another way that .9999999... equals one? I'm still not entirely sure.