1. THORNINYOURSIDE
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    02 Feb '06 01:24
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    How come there are only 6 numbers per line? Aren't we drawing 7 numbers and hoping to match our 3 or something?
    For the UK Lottery you need to Match 6 balls from 49. The 7th ball is a bonus ball for those matching 5 balls.
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    02 Feb '06 10:54
    on the national lottery you can only enter 6 numbers.

    A bonus ball (7th ball) is drawn but only affects the prizes not the actual number you pick.

    This set of entries would work on any pick 6 lottery
  3. Belfast
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    03 Feb '06 23:01
    Is it not called the Lotto now or something?
  4. Standard memberBowmann
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    03 Feb '06 23:19
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    Quite often you ramble on...
    He does indeed.

    Cor, a hundred words where ten will do!
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    06 Feb '06 09:24
    Originally posted by Bowmann
    He does indeed.

    Cor, a hundred words where ten will do!
    That reminds me of British spelling. Too many unnecessary letters!
  6. Berks.
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    06 Feb '06 19:29
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    With 49 numbers from which 7 are drawn* there are 8.59 million combinations. Your story sounds like a load of crap.
    I don't think it is though. I recall watching a programme about it a few years ago, although whether it was the Virginian lottery or another does escape me.

    It had rolled over several times, so the prize money on offer was much bigger than the amout to be spent on tickets. Sending people around the state to buy them, thanks to some vendors refusing to sell as many as they wanted the group weren't able to buy all the tickets (only about 90% or something), but did win and make some money.

    Of course it would have been foiled with too many people sharing the prize too.
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    09 Feb '06 21:222 edits
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    With 49 numbers from which 7 are drawn* there are 8.59 million combinations. Your story sounds like a load of crap.

    *I'm taking the numbers from Will's definition of the UK lotto but the Virginia lotto may be different, for example in NZ the lotto is 6 numbers from 40 (a bonus ball which counts for lower divisions is included) which is 3.83 million com ...[text shortened]... *4!]). Therefore you need 3159 lines (rounding up obviously) to ensure you will win the prize.
    The flaw with this is as follows:
    You don't need every possible combination, you need one of the combinations you have got to be on every ticket.

    Consider ways of selecting 3 items from 6, there are 20 of these as follows:
    abc
    abd
    abe
    abf
    acd
    ace
    acf
    ade
    adf
    aef
    bcd
    bce
    bcf
    bde
    bdf
    bef
    cde
    cdf
    cef
    def


    Say you are trying to buy as few 3-letter tickets as possible to ensure that whatever combo comes up you have 2 letters right.

    if you buy the combo abc, you have covered all tickets with a&b, a&c or b&c

    This leaves
    ade
    adf
    bde
    bdf
    bef
    cde
    cdf
    cef
    def

    Which can all be covered by buying the combo def

    So, there are 15 two letter combinations possible, and each ticket covers 3 of them, why did we need only two tickets and not 5?

    well - look at the combinations we missed out, they are:
    ad
    ae
    af
    bd
    be
    bf
    cd
    ce
    cf

    We have ensured that if a card comes up with two of these combinations on it, they will combine to give us a third combination that we have covered!

    The ideal "cover" for a given lottery depends on finding a the smallest set of tickets with this property of covering every combination of the uncovered combos. It is not a simple matter of probability.
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    09 Feb '06 21:27
    Originally posted by rlg195
    163 lines ;

    Ticket 1 : 1 2 3 4 5 10
    Ticket 2 : 1 2 9 10 11 26
    Ticket 3 : 1 2 9 10 14 23
    Ticket 4 : 1 2 10 12 16 20
    Ticket 5 : 1 3 14 20 23 26
    Ticket 6 : 1 4 9 12 15 27
    Ticket 7 : 1 4 12 14 18 23
    Ticket 8 : 1 5 11 14 16 27
    Ticket 9 : 1 5 11 15 16 23
    Ticket 10 : 1 6 7 10 18 19
    Ticket 11 : 1 6 8 17 2 ...[text shortened]...
    Ticket 161 : 37 38 42 43 45 47
    Ticket 162 : 39 40 41 44 45 47
    Ticket 163 : 39 40 42 43 46 48
    Nice one! I guess you found this somewhare like:
    lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/Wheel.html
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